Yes, Titler Pro 5 titles should open fine in Titler Pro 7. If you have specific tech support questions, you can sent them to support @ newblueinc.com and they will certainly be answered. Please include as many details as possible.

Thanks, Grazie. I deleted the more complex, annimated titles and recreated, as I just couldn't save them. Simple titles weren't a big problem. NB7 looks very much like NB5, but saving titles and caching are quite different, at least for me. I don't actually see a huge difference between NB7 Ultimate and NB5, but I do like the resulting titles. I also still use the legacy VP Pro and different versions of BluffTitler, but prefer NB. Are there any other title programs you'd recommend?

Dennis

If you have specific tech support questions, you can sent them to support @ newblueinc.com and they will certainly be answered. Please include as many details as possible.

@Den24601 - Yes, do what Edward suggests and then please get back here with your "successful" results - I'm all ears!

I noticed that when I am able to modify an existing NB5 title and save it, upon opening it again, a random, different title opens in its place

Yes, that was a very annoying (to say the least) problem with TP5. The problem seemed to be resolved with TP6, and all the titles that I created in TP6 and now use in the same long existing VP18 project now using TP7 thankfully haven't experienced that problem.

I think that the 'replaced' titles and even disappearing titles started with TP5 when a global approach was introduced. This meant that you could have a series of TP5 titles on a project and globally change the font and other settings for all of them without having to go through them on-by-one to make the changes. An absolutely great approach which had an unfortunate side effect even if the global checkboxes within TP5 were turned off.

Nonetheless, over some 10 years, the support requests that I've sent to NewBlueFX have not only been addressed swiftly but with thoroughness - so many thanks to Edward and Caleb.

Nonetheless, over some 10 years, the support requests that I've sent to NewBlueFX have not only been addressed swiftly but with thoroughness - so many thanks to Edward and Caleb.

@Dexcon - Yes, and over 10 years also thanks to Caleb and Edward, sure, been the same for me. But now I have had outstanding issues with NBTP7 that go back months, that have not been addressed. Have you tried recently? I really wish it wasn’t.

Have you tried recently?

@Grazie  ... Yes. Going back to a post on this forum a little while ago - maybe 2 months ago - re Titler Pro 7 which included the infernal problem of not getting real-time VP preview window reaction/updating/lag with adjustments in TP7 (which was not a problem in TP5 and earlier), I was requested by NBFX support at the time by email to supply further information and, a few weeks ago, was updated by NBFX support that the issue was still being investigated. To be fair, I haven't as yet tried out the just released TP 7.8 build.

@Dexcon - No change:

1 - No Video in Background while Playing in NB GUI.

2 - Transport Controls are less than helpful.

3 - Folder cascade are still unworkable.

4 - Updates to Assets remains my biggest gripes.

These 4 are still outstanding.

No Video in Background while Playing in NB GUI.

Without a doubt my biggest gripe, It was available in TP5 and earlier - why not now?

Without a doubt my biggest gripe, It was available in TP5 and earlier - why not now?

@Dexcon - Woah, I’ve got several opinions 😉. Look at their Core Business now, I don’t believe they’ve got enough deep pockets to employ enough creatives and creative coders to put it right. The recent releases, from NBTP6 onwards have supplied bells and whistles but the core Videographer’s requirements have lost out. Live overlays for Live shows ain’t a videographer’s first call.

I’m hoping for the best with NB, but in the meantime I’ve learnt BORIS Title Studio. At least with this I see my Video in the Background and can save and collate Templates easily. The Transport controls are what you’d expect from a Media Manipulation Company.

@Grazie I'm curious. Does BORIS Title Studio support multi-title management similar to TP7. For me, that's the biggest incentive for remaining with TP7, despite all its flaws.

As to displaying the video in the background, TP7 can do this. You just have to apply the title as an event FX then select the option 'View/Background/Video from NLE' in TP7.

@Jack S - What do you mean?

As to displaying the video in the background, TP7 can do this. You just have to apply the title as an event FX then select the option 'View/Background/Video from NLE' in TP7.

@Jack S - No you can’t, even if you apply it as an Event Fx AND “View/Background/Video from NLE' in TP7”. What you’re showing is a display a single Frame from the Video, not the rolling Video, and this is how it used to be. As soon as you Go Play the Screen goes black. It’s a bug. It’s been replicated by those at NB and they haven’t cured it.

@Grazie Blimey, you're right. However, this has worked before. See below a video I did for a previous post about this.

@Grazie Blimey, you're right. However, this has worked before.

@Jack S - You're correct on both counts! It’s been like this, well since 7, yes? What iteration was it working in your Video?

I don’t say these things lightly, as NBTP was totally fab, with the easy update of various Lower thirds for Personnel Names and Job Functions. Total bliss. But now it’s a motzah pudding of ill-planned disconfabulations amassed in a really nice looking GUI.

@Grazie I don't think it matters which build I was on when I recorded this video. As I said in that post, I don't know how I got it to work then as it had not previously worked before. As I've discovered now, it's a bit 'hit and miss'.

Just to remind you what you commented in a post on 7th January 2021 :-

I’ve had a direct response from Seth at NewBlue:

1] The substantive Preview Playback issue has been reproduced by them too.

2] The substantive Preview Playback issue has been now been passed to developers to investigate.

3] Due to their current staffing and ticket load they aren’t able to keep up with the Forums which is something they would like to engage with more in the future.

So they've known about this issue since then. What more can I say? We've said it all before, haven't we?

Well Chaps, I've reinstalled NBTP5 and it gives me what I want.

Ok, here's the scoop on video on background. If applied as an EFFECT, it will work. Vegas passes each video frame to an effect so it can be processed so Titler can see the background video when used as an effect.

When used as a Media Generator, it will not work. This is because the background video is not passed to a media generator. So Titler does not receive anything from Vegas to display.

Titler can only show what Vegas sends it to show. As a media generator, that is nothing. As an effect, that is each frame of the video to which it was applied.

I do what I can to monitor the forums but am not on line all the time. I do pass some posts on and answer others. Unfortunately, I don't have all the answers which is why I point out some posts to others at NewBlue. Honestly, the best way to get support is to open a new ticket. I can't guarantee an immediate resolution to all issues but, at least, the issues will be known.

@jetdv  but, at least, the issues will be known.
The issues are already known and have been for a long time, as my previous comment points out. It's got so bad that the NewBlue user forum has been closed down. I think that the amount of unanswered and unsolved problems raised by users must have been an embarrassment.

I've been in contact with several members of the NewBlue team over the years, raising issues that I found. The majority of those issues are still apparent despite the many new builds over that period. There's no wonder that @Grazie has resorted to abandoning TP7 for an earlier version.