need basic roll help!

masmedia wrote on 7/2/2005, 3:35 PM
Hi
Still new to Vegas... simply want to make a "credit roll" transferring text from another word processor with about 10 lines or so... looks horrible when I copy and paste into "credit roll" and when I put it in as a regular text, just what fits on the screen shows with the rest chopped off by trying to roll it with the keyframes. What is the quick and easy way to do a roll?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

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PeterWright wrote on 7/2/2005, 5:45 PM
Try using a standard text box, type or paste your ten lines, then use the Placement tab to have beginning and end keyframes.

e.g. - start with the first line just out of sight at the bottom, and end with the last line just out of sight at the top.
masmedia wrote on 7/2/2005, 6:24 PM
Hi Peter,
Thanks for those tips! I'm getting closer: it basically works this way, but I need to expand the clip and when I do, it loops. How do I adjust the speed to make it slower over the whole duration of the clip?

Thanks!
mas
jetdv wrote on 7/2/2005, 6:32 PM
After changing the length of the event on the timeline, also change the "Length" field in the upper right-hand corner of the text generated media box. Then you can adjust the kyeframe locations as needed.


Alternately, you could hold down the CTRL key when resizing the event to slow it down.
masmedia wrote on 7/2/2005, 6:40 PM
this forum rules! Thanks, Jetdv! : )
rs170a wrote on 7/2/2005, 9:34 PM
...adjust the speed to make it slower...<i?>
masmedia wrote on 7/3/2005, 6:18 AM
Hi Mike,

Where do I adjust the speed? I did what Jetdv posted and it worked great!

mas
Grazie wrote on 7/3/2005, 7:21 AM
Well, if you make it longer it will go slower - but you need to pull it out to its full length to see it all. The oher way is to plop in a Velocity envelope.. This will give you all sorts of controls - percentages of speed; staggering speeds; backwards as well as forwards . .etc . . etc . . . Make sure you DO see the "notch" on the top of the Media Event to make sure you have the FULL version of your complete clip - I've been caught out before with this!

Lots for you to try here.

Grazie
rs170a wrote on 7/3/2005, 8:37 AM
Where do I adjust the speed?

By doing what Edward (Jetdv) told you to do. My answer and his were the same but he beat me to the forum :-)

Mike
masmedia wrote on 7/5/2005, 11:08 AM
Great! This all helped! Thanks much!
masmedia wrote on 7/5/2005, 2:54 PM
it works, BUT... it won't let me go beyond :30 for the roll, although I've typed in the duration time as long as :50. what am I still missing?
J_Mac wrote on 7/5/2005, 3:26 PM
You may be adjusting the final numbers in the box. If so, those are the frame numbers which in NTSC is 29.97 or 30. Move to the next two numbers to the left, which is the seconds, adjust those to 50 seconds, and leave the first two as 00, or you will get additional frames.

The length box has four sets of 2 digits. The first three on the left are separated by a colon ( : ),
The frame count digits are preceded by a period, ( . ), and are the last on the right.

00:00:00.10 Good luck, John.
rcdanek wrote on 8/28/2005, 8:46 AM
I'm glad I found this discussion because adjusting media length had me a bit confused. I have only been using Vegas for a week, although I had tried it out a few years back as a trial version and liked it. I eventually got Premier Pro, but now I've gone to Vegas. I like it more in many ways.

I also, in the interim, used Sony Music Studio and I noticed that Generated Media lengths could be adjusted by clickin on an icon next to the length dialog box. The numbers changed to whatever the clip length actually was. With Vegas, it seems I have to enter the information manually, which seems like extra work...almost as if the higher priced Vegas version left something out. I'm sure there's an excellent reason for this but I don't know what it is. Can someone shed some light on this?

In the meantime, I set the "time" digits in my case from 10 to 50, as one of the previous posters suggested, and things seem to work OK.

Also, in the previous post, "John" mentions frame count digits preceeded by a period. In my display, I see no period...only a semi-color. Am I looking in the wrong place?

Thanks!
rs170a wrote on 8/28/2005, 9:54 AM
With Vegas, it seems I have to enter the information manually...

You're seeing the difference between a consumer app and a (semi) professional one. Vegas gives you so much more control over pretty much everything that you have to do a lot of the work yourself. Similar to the differences between a consumer-level camera and a broadcast-grade model. People are always amazed that you have to focus manually and that the viewfinders are in black & white.

Also, in the previous post, "John" mentions frame count digits preceeded by a period. In my display, I see no period...only a semi-color. Am I looking in the wrong place?

No, you're right. It's John who is mistaken.
BTW, in case you didn't know, the 4 sets of digits are hours, minutes, seconds and frames. The common abbreviation is hh:mm:ss;ff
If the last separator is a semi-colon, it means drop-frame mode. A full colon means it's non-drop frame. Search "SMPTE" or timecode in the manual for an explanation.

Mike
craftech wrote on 8/29/2005, 9:38 AM
The credit roll has needed revamping since Vegas 2.0. It is one of the many unaddressed "basic" features SF/Sony hasn't addressed and is one of the reasons I haven't upgraded past Vegas 4.0 yet. Anyway the following works every time to set the speed to the exact length you want it.

Here is what I do. It seems to work for me whereas other suggestions don't:

1. Place credit roll at end of video

2. Type in all the information

3. Edit generated media: Change the time length to the desired amount (may involve trial and error)

4. Go back to timeline and place the cursor back from the end of the timeline a distance equal to the desired length of the credit roll. I did it by typing in the cursor position (in the little box under the timeline toward the right) so it was exact.

5. MOVE the Credit Roll Left to the cursor position WITHOUT resizing it.

6. Send the cursor to the end of the video by clicking Go To END (CTRL+END).

7. Stretch the end of the credit roll to the Right up to the cursor WITHOUT holding down the CTRL key.

8. If the speed is too fast go back and do it all over again from step 3 above.


rcdanek wrote on 8/29/2005, 4:02 PM
Regarding "the difference between a consumer app and a (semi) professional one"...I would expect a professional or even "semi-professional" program to have BOTH advanced and easy-to-use features. Unless there's a compelling reason not to have this feature (and there may be and I just don't know what it is), it should be there.

I understand the reasoning behind autofocus vesus manual focus and, to a lesser exent, the B/W viewfinder versus color viewfinder. But, why one might not have the Movie Studio time feature in the upscale Vegas is a puzzle.

P.S.
In general, what would Vegas need to make it a non "semi" product? I'm relatively new at this stuff and I really don't know.