New cursor in v6

guitard wrote on 9/24/2005, 11:34 PM
This new cursor is driving me crazy....

I often like to highlight video (usually to delete it or cut and past it elsewhere) by dragging my mouse across the section of the timeline I wish to highlight. Of course, I like to make exact cuts and I usually place the cursor right at the exact frame I wish to begin my highlight.

There in lies the problem for me (note: I recently jumped from v4 to v6 - maybe v5 also had it). When you position the mouse over the cursor in v6, a little horizontal black line with arrows on each end appears - and it won't let you begin a highlight from the frame at which the cursor is positioned by starting at that point and dragging the mouse.

I've searched and searched and can't find a way to shut this off and make it work like v4... but haven't been able to find anything.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

joe

Comments

farss wrote on 9/25/2005, 12:14 AM
Well I'm glad it drives someone else NUTS too. What's even worse, R Click the clip and the damn cursor stays as that double headed arrow thing, OK it doesn't really matter but visually it's very distracting. All I can say is Sony please leave my pointy thingy alone, I could invoke a rather crude Aussie expression to cover this but it is Sunday.
Bob.
Grazie wrote on 9/25/2005, 12:15 AM
If I'm understanding you correctly, then DON'T put your Mouse Cursor on the Timberline Cursor "head" Just scrub the event as per V4. The Cursor head is neat if you want to MOVE the cursor - which are finding out! So, just Scrub the range on the Event you want. Is that it?

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 9/25/2005, 12:18 AM
I do a lot of my fine tuning within Trimmer. Scrub > Drag 'n Plop! Done! - G
guitard wrote on 9/25/2005, 5:08 AM
I'm understanding you correctly, then DON'T put your Mouse Cursor on the Timberline Cursor "head" Just scrub the event as per V4

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If I want to highlight from an exact frame, the easiest way (in v4) was simply to position to cursor on that frame and when I clicked the mouse near the cursor, it intuitively started the highlight at the cursor.

However, now that is not possible.

So I have to position the cursor X number of frames away from the frame at which I want to start my highlight, take a stab at the point where I begin highlighting, and hope that I start the highlighting at the correct frame.

joe

Grazie wrote on 9/25/2005, 5:25 AM
"If I want to highlight from an exact frame, the easiest way (in v4) was simply to position to cursor on that frame and when I clicked the mouse near the cursor, it intuitively started the highlight at the cursor."

Ahhhgghhh now I see what you mean. Engage "Quantize to Frames" - icon on the toolbar? It should be there? Or Options, first Option! This will make sure you are getting the THE frame, without the need to "hunt" for a frame. Is this what you want?

Grazie
CDM wrote on 9/25/2005, 5:34 AM
Hi there -
to turn this feature off, go to Preferences-->General amd turn off "Allow Edit Cursor to be Dragged"
Grazie wrote on 9/25/2005, 6:11 AM
CDM? Now I'm confused! I did the, "General amd turn off "Allow Edit Cursor to be Dragged"" - ON or OFF makes no difference I can still drag the Cursor? QTF gets exact frame highlighting. Isn't this what Joe wants? - G
ibliss wrote on 9/25/2005, 6:40 AM
TRY holding down SHIFT and then dragging the cursor... it's like magic!
farss wrote on 9/25/2005, 6:56 AM
You guys are all missing the point!
Now when you get close to where the cursor is the pointer turns into that double headed arrow widget and Vegas assumes you want to drag the cursor, which would be all fine and dandy if that's what you wanted to do but if you want to move the cursor a few frames either way by just clicking there it don't work like it used to and yes, changing the option to drag the cursor doesn't seem to change the behavior either.
I know there's other ways to achieve the same thing, just that it's a pain when your brain learnt to work one way and for no apparent reason the tool you use day in and day out suddenly works differently.
To top it all off, I have zero use for dragging the cursor, I've got shuttles on all my machines to do that.
Bob.
Grazie wrote on 9/25/2005, 7:37 AM
I got a CSP shuttle here, goes frame accurate . . works for me. I need to lay down. G
farss wrote on 9/25/2005, 7:58 AM
YES!
Works just fine with the CSP for me too! Never said it didn't!

Try this simple test:
Drop video onto T/L, zoom right out.
Position the cursor say midway. Now try to move the cursor a few frames either way by just pointing and clicking where you want it to jump to.
What happens is when you get too close to the cursor the mouse pointer changes to the double ended Drag Pointer making it hard to know where the pointer is!

Now while the pointer is in that mode, R Click the media, the pointer stays as a double ended arrow, very annoying.

Bob.

PS Hope the lie down helped.
ibliss wrote on 9/25/2005, 8:06 AM
...click just above the timeline rather than over the media?...
...alt+left right arrow?...

(i'm sure you know these bob, just throwing them 'out there')
farss wrote on 9/25/2005, 8:11 AM
As i said, many ways to do the job and that's one of them, so is turning the CSP wheel, just that back in V4 and V5 I got into a 'bad' habit. When you try to work quick you always go back to the bad old ways and then in V6 this change just messes with my head.
Bob.
ibliss wrote on 9/25/2005, 10:16 AM
yeah, I see. Actually I'm still with V5 so perhaps I'm not seeing quite the behaviour you are?
ibliss wrote on 9/25/2005, 10:18 AM
yeah, I see. Actually I'm still with V5 so perhaps I'm not seeing quite the behaviour you are?

Anyway, I think the holding down shift thing will solve the original posters' problem.

Cheers