New PC purchase - narrowed down to these two, which is best for Vegas?

glen-s wrote on 8/31/2016, 11:38 AM

After getting about all I can out of my 2009 model Dell XPS i7, I'm finding that it's just not enough for 4K video from my Phantom 4, or even higher bitrate 1080-60p video. After looking at Dell, HP, ASUS etc. offerings, I've decided to go another route. 

I've got it narrowed down to two CyberPowerPC units, the one I initially had my eye on, this one, has the i7 6800 processor, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD and the 6GB GTX 1060 video card.  I probably would have ordered it by now but it's out of stock or not yet available everywhere I look. 

I started looking at what is available, and found this one, which has the slower 6700 processor, 16GB ram (which I'm sure is plenty for Vegas 13) and smaller 120GB SSD (which is a concern). However, it has the 8GB AMD RX 480 card - which is a potential deal maker since I've heard that Vegas works much better with the AMD cards than the Nvidia. 

My biggest concern with the latter is the slower processor and smaller SSD - the SSD is easily rectified but trying to decide if i should hold out for the one with the 6800 processor when it comes available. 

Is the 6700 processor with the 8GB AMD graphics card going to compare favourably with the 6800 processor partnered with the 6GB Nvidia card?  

If the 6800 processor is going to make a lot of difference for longevity etc, I may hold off, and if the RX480 is a far better option than the Nvidia card I suppose I could sell the Nvidia and buy the AMD after the fact. 

thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Comments

OldSmoke wrote on 8/31/2016, 11:51 AM

Actually Vegas recommends 8-core cpu and 16GB ram for 4K, also a 8GB graphic card if I am not mistaken. You should go atleast with a 6-core if you want to edit 4K natively, meaning no proxies.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Eagle Six wrote on 8/31/2016, 1:55 PM

Hi Glen,

I downloaded some sample 4K taken with an F55, '4096x2160x32, 23.976p'.  Without corrections or special effects it runs at full speed without proxies.  I running it on an i7 6800K, 64 gb mem, AMD Radeon R9 390 8 gb card.  See full specs in my signature.

Best Regards....George

Edit:  Changed R9 690 tp R9 390, Thanks OldSmake!

Last changed by Eagle Six on 8/31/2016, 6:24 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

OldSmoke wrote on 8/31/2016, 2:05 PM

I don't think there is such a thing as a R9 690. Do you mean a GTX690?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/31/2016, 2:07 PM

It is correct that SCS had specified 8 cores for 4K - but I do not remember that it was a 8 GB GPU. The 8 GB GPU would be important if somebody wants to use Resolve too for 4K.

Just to be specific - even with 8 cores you will not be able to playback UHD/4K 50p/60p for example with XAVC-I. For other codecs like Cineform that will be easier, maybe also for ProRes if they implement it native. So 8 cores is also relative. I have seen playback of UHD/4K 50p/60p at full speed with applications like Edius 8, Catalyst Prepare but also with Resolve (with 8GB GPU R9 390X).

The AMD cards are still great in Vegas. But they will support playback behaviour for effects but not for the pure footage in the timeline.

So I would go at least for a 6 core system today. If you can afford it for 8 cores. Do not choose systems with a low GHz figure - Vegas still uses higher GHz. And do not expect too much by Vegas. Especially with the latest hardware the improvement of performance is lower then one would expect. Unfortunately.

 

 

 

 

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * GTX 3080 Ti * Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * Atomos Sumo * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE, 32 GB Ram. Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB) with internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor
HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG

GregFlowers wrote on 8/31/2016, 3:33 PM

I'd just go to the CyberpowerPC website and get them to build you one to your spec. You could get a very good one for about $1500. Use the X99 configurator or take one similar to what you want and change things to how you want it.

glen-s wrote on 8/31/2016, 6:08 PM

I had a look at the CyberPowerPC website - while I like all the configuration options available, they ship ony via UPS, which is less than desirable up here because they have a rep for gouging with brokerage fees on delivery. 

I just noticed that the SLC9840 with the 6800 processor just became available on the Staples Canadian website, so I'm tempted to pick one up and see how the Nvidia card works for me.