New Update!!!

jpenn wrote on 7/23/2013, 7:25 PM

Notable fixes/changes in version $BuildNumber$
Added smart rendering support for Panasonic P2 files.
The Panasonic P2 format now preserves 10-bit color when rendering.
Added support for rendering 29.97p, 25p, 59.94i, and 50i AVC-Intra 100 Panasonic P2 video.
Added an Optimize GPU display performance check box to the Video Preview tab in the Preferences dialog when Windows Graphics Card is selected in the Device drop-down list. We recommend leaving this check box selected. You can clear the check box if you experience system, external monitor, or video preview performance problems.
Improved the Color Match plug-in to prevent an issue that could cause .veg file sizes to grow significantly for each instance of the Color Match plug-in.
Improved AMD GPU performance when using Catalyst 13.x (format of driver version number changed).
Improved Intel GPU performance when using driver 9.18.10.3070 or newer.
Improved playback performance for AVC-Intra 100 Panasonic P2 video.
New right-click menu in the Titles & Text plug-in allows quick access to Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, and Select All commands for editing text.
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when attempting to explore a deleted folder in the Vegas Pro Explorer.
Fixed a bug that could Vegas to crash when using the Device Explorer to view XAVC volumes that contained invalid clips.
Fixed a bug that could cause Vegas to freeze when zooming the timeline when playing some projects with XAVC media.
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash on some systems with NVIDIA graphics when resizing the Video Preview window during playback.
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when rendering some very large projects to QuickTime format.
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when double-clicking the Computer icon in the Vegas Explorer window.
Fixed a bug that could cause some large, very complex projects to crash when working with very large MP4 videos on 64-bit systems (or when using the Upload to YouTube command).
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when pressing Esc to exit expanded edit mode after the edit track had been removed from the timeline.
Prerendered video files are no longer invalidated by Project Properties changes unless settings on the Video tab are edited.
Fixed a bug that caused field order in interlaced P2 files to be read incorrectly.
Fixed a bug that could cause timecode to be written incorrectly when rendering Panasonic P2 files in 50p or 60p format.
Fixed a bug that could prevent files from being removed after canceling a P2 render.
Fixed a bug when rendering MainConcept MPEG-2 files that caused YUV color values from the source file to be changed in the rendered file.
Fixed a bug that could cause the Preferences > General > Import MXF as multichannel setting to be ignored when importing XAVC video.
Fixed a bug that prevented Vegas Pro from importing SStP MXF clips recorded by F5/F55 cameras.
Fixed a bug that could cause audio dropouts when playing projects containing XAVC video.
Fixed a bug that could cause video-proxy creation to fail for XAVC and P2 formats when switching away from Vegas Pro when the Close media files when not the active application General preference was selected.
Fixed a bug that could cause generated media to use incorrect attributes after opening and closing projects with similar generated-media assets.
Fixed a bug that caused the monitor to remain black after turning off Video Preview on External Monitor on systems with a Radeon GPU and Catalyst driver 12.10 or later.
Fixed a bug that prevented thumbnail images in the Project Media window from displaying media rotation.
Fixed a bug that could cause thumbnail images in the Project Media window to display at the incorrect size.
Fixed a bug that could cause some MP4 video files to be read as audio-only files.
Fixed a bug that could prevent Vegas from reading some rendered P2, MXF, and XAVC files.
Fixed a bug that caused rendered MXF files to incorrectly report that they had been created using Vegas Pro 10.0.
Fixed a bug that could cause playback issues with some standard-definition XDCAM MXF files.
Fixed a bug that could cause a USB-connected P2 camera to be displayed multiple times in the Device Explorer.
Fixed a bug that could prevent a USB-connected P2 camera from being displayed in the Device Explorer.
Fixed a bug that prevented OFX track effects from being saved and applied properly with default track properties.
Implemented a workaround for a Final Cut Pro X limitation when handling file names containing spaces. Media file naming has been revised when using File > Export > Final Cut Pro X and clicking Yes when prompted to export the media pool.
Fixed a bug that could cause some projects to fail when exporting to Final Cut Pro X format if media field order was unknown.
Fixed a bug that caused punch-in events to be displayed incorrectly in expanded edit mode.
Fixed a bug that could cause MOV files recorded by iOS devices to be displayed with the incorrect rotation or aspect ratio.

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Dave McCallister wrote on 7/24/2013, 6:17 PM

(David McKnight)

16bit /44.1 CD track from HD

How can Vegas tell what HD interface the data is coming from?
How can Vegas tell how big the drive is?

Is the issue actually 24-bit vs 16?

set wrote on 7/24/2013, 7:03 PM

Glad to hear this although I have been quite comfortable here in 563 :)

BTW, I still kept using catalyst 12.08, and thinking of make upgrade, does the latest release of catalyst is stable for use with VP12 ?
How much influence will it be to me, as I still using Radeon 5750 ?

And good to hear about Color Match large size issue fixes, hopefully it will work as expected.

DavidMcKnight wrote on 7/24/2013, 7:50 PM

Dave McCallister - yes, the issue is with 24-bit / 48K WAV files. The workaround is to use the files on an internally connected drive and transcode to a lossless format like FLAC.

Lovelight wrote on 7/24/2013, 8:12 PM

I'm using a sony recorder with sony's v12 & it doesn't work.

I'll try different settings to see if it helps.

I have a zoom, but I prefer the sony recorder. I would think sony would want me to use their gear with their software, but they know better.

Would be nice if an update could square this away.

Mark_e wrote on 7/25/2013, 5:34 PM

Giving vegas one more go,
did clean install of windows 7 64bit, have only installed vegas 670
Touch wood this update + the new radion driver update for firepro 7900 seems to have made a massive difference to my system. fan even comes on on the graphics card, I could never get enough load on it before to do that,
Tested the benchmark Press Release Project and I can now set it on 32 bit, best full in the panel + preview on external monitor 1080p and it plays through with no frame drops and really uses the firepro card. could get no where near that before.

This is how I imagined vegas should work! fingers crossed, will gradually add in plugins and see how it goes but so far so good.

OldSmoke wrote on 7/25/2013, 6:06 PM

Would be nice if you could render the benchmark project to MC AVC 1080p and let us know the render time. I am always looking for something better then my system and Keppler cards are not option for now.

Paul Fierlinger wrote on 7/25/2013, 6:10 PM

I can't get Vegas to give me the black events anymore. I've put the software through all the tricks I've learned just to create black events but it won't happen anymore. The ultimate was to switch from one large project to another within the File menu and Vegas was going to fail me. Now I can go back and forth and scrub back and forth at breakneck speeds and the black events just won't happen and Vegas won't freeze for a few minutes to catch up after all that scrubbing. I've also tried importing several events with all the AVI codecs I have available to me and none of them fail. This is pretty good.

larry-peter wrote on 7/25/2013, 6:21 PM

This looks promising. At least I'm seeing the same playback performance as I did with VP11 on my system 2 (560ti card). I only threw a few 1080 clips at it but it already feels much better than the previous build. I'll install on system 1 tomorrow and see if this version finally works correctly with the AJA Kona again.

Byron K wrote on 7/25/2013, 11:40 PM

They fixed something.
On this thread I was having issues,
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=863974

But now I can now render to .mov intermediates w/ 12 multi-threads and cranked up my preview RAM to 10Gigs. Renders my 7-10 minute videos in 15-20 minutes vs 1.5 hours.

I don't have to reboot my machine between renders either.

Man I wish this fix came out two weeks ago, could have saved me a LOT of time rendering 11 videos... I wasn't going to re-render my vids w/ tweaks that I made to them because of the painfully long render times but now I'm re-rendering. (;

Mark_e wrote on 7/26/2013, 3:25 AM

@ Old Smoke render test using the default project settings 8bit - good and all default vegas settings it renders in 52 secs switching the project to 32bit best takes 2.09 to render (I haven't got all my disks set up properly yet etc. literally just have fresh patched w7 64bit ultimate and vegas on a wd raptor at the moment.

I need to use it in anger a bit and get the plugins loaded etc but it's the general using / browsing time line etc that's really improved for me so far, fingers crossed!

set wrote on 7/26/2013, 3:51 AM

I'm just testing the new Color Match, and apply one.

Here's the file size project differences:
Before I add color match : 966 KB (989,968 bytes)
After I add (source external file - save snapshot JPEG) : 1.20 MB (1,268,504 bytes)
After I added with preview captured scene : 1.20 MB (1,268,528 bytes)
The store data for color match reference is just 278,536 bytes.

Snapshot JPEG file Best Full : 425 KB (436,012 bytes)
Preview Half: 135 KB (138,275 bytes)

Really good... Very Efficient!
Thank you SCS!

malowz wrote on 7/26/2013, 3:55 AM

my script icons in toolbar still go blank... just saying... ;P

i am erikd wrote on 7/26/2013, 3:56 AM

Well still no fix for "automatically save trimmers and markers in original file". This bug has been acknowledged by Sony for versions 10,11 and 12 and still no fix. A real shame when you consider it is for proper integration with their own product, Sony XDCAM!!

Come on, fix it already!

Erik

dtudela wrote on 7/26/2013, 9:22 AM

Happy to report that GPU acceleration is working great on my system (i7 3770 onboard hd 4000 graphics) with the latest install of VP12. Also, no longer need to set preview ram at 0. I set ram preview to 256, 512, 1024, etc. while testing and render times were the same and no issues at all. GPU on clearly renders faster than when turned off. So far STABLE here with hour + renders.

--Darrell

megabit wrote on 7/26/2013, 11:40 AM

"Also, no longer need to set preview ram at 0"

Not quite so great here, unfortunately. With my 10-camera MC tracks previewed in the preview monitor at Preview/Half, and the active take full screen on the Secondary Windows Display - I still need to set RAM preview to zero in order to get a decent fps.

The same with the "Optimize GPU usage for preview" (or whatever it is called); I had to disable it for the fps to be useful (and it still is lower than in VP11, the same project).

Piotr

David Johns wrote on 7/27/2013, 1:50 PM

Sadly I'm having ongoing problems with previewing material via my Blackmagic Intensity Pro (which used to work beautifully in Vegas 10e).

I haven't quite nailed down what causes it but it seems playback of some formats makes Vegas crash, whilst others play at normal speed but will crash if I use the playback rate bar to speed it up.

It's random enough to make me have to live without it - which is tiresome - as I don't want to crash my project whenever I play back the timeline!

Regards
Dave

Lovelight wrote on 7/27/2013, 1:51 PM

Well did some experimenting, it still does not work. The problem is vegas does not build the peaks correctly. It brings the audio clip in & instantly builds the peak as a straight line with no sound. This is very unprofessional of Vegas to not work with its own sony pro audio gear. Let's get it together. How hard could this be to fix?

larry-peter wrote on 7/27/2013, 3:08 PM

@David Johns,
This is a "do it at your own risk" suggestion, but If there is a .dll for BlackMagic cards and you have a prior version, you may get some results by swapping the older .dll file into VP12. I use AJA Kona for preview and it won't work in VP12 either. Replacing the AJA .dll with the one from VP11 made it usable.

Tom Pauncz wrote on 7/27/2013, 5:07 PM

@Dave & atom12,

I don't use the BMD's Intensity Pro but do use BMD's Decklink Studio and can confirm some issues, going way back to the release of VP12 that was solved by using three DLLs from VP11/701.

After I upgraded to the latest build (670), ext preview was totally dead with BMD's Desktop Video v9.7.1. VP11/701 was perfectly fine but using the VP11/701. DLLs with VP12/670 did not work.

The DLLs are:
In the VP12 root directory:
DecklinkVideoProperties.dll
In the Video Hardware Drivers directory:
extviddev.dll
DecklinkVideoDevice.dll

Started playing around with this to see if I could pin it - it now works on build 670 with BMD's Desktop Video v9.7.5 (their latest).

Here, in a nutshell, is what I did.
1. Removed both DV v9.7.1. and VP12/670 and rebooted
2. Installed DV v9.7.5, rebooted and then installed VP12/670

I can confirm that external preview now works, not at full framerate, but it works. I could not make it crash.

Should add that the exact same .veg file opened in VP11/701 plays back full rate to external preview with this setup.

I recall reading a long while back that the BMD software needs to be installed before Vegas, so a remove of both, as above, may provide some joy.

@atom12
The above steps may be worth trying with your AJA device. You never know.

YMMV...
Tom

ushere wrote on 7/27/2013, 8:00 PM

@ dj - i'm having ;some' minor problems with my inte. pro - most noticeably an occasional freeze on the external monitor. have to close and reopen vegas to clear it.

i don't know whose at fault here, but it's very annoying trying to work with supposedly professional equipment that keeps loosing the plot.

btw. latest bm drivers on i7/920/16gb/550ti/gigbyte mb.