No Fast Forward or rewind on Sony PS3 console.

JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 4:01 PM
I just created a Video with Vegas 11, burned it with DVD Arch' v6 and put the BDR into my Sony PS3 to play it to test it. However, it wont let me fast forward or rewind the video during playback. If I put it in my PC It will let me FF/RW ok. These are the only Blu ray devices I have.

Do I need to do something to the video file before I burn it for a stand-alone blu ray player to have this capability of FF and RW ?

Very much appreciate the help with this if it's a quick fix, especially !

JJ !

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videoITguy wrote on 12/9/2012, 4:29 PM
Are you talking prev/next functions of forward/back direction
OR are you talking double speed , triple speed for video playback?

Just so you know the PS3 is setup to operate on optical discs with a subset of the full specifications - so not all features of a variety of source discs will function. You will gain insights about this from the PS3 community BUT generally NOT SO much from users of set-top players who could care less bout PS3.

Try your burned discs in some good quality set-top players - a PC evaluation is not useful in QA of disc authoring.
JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 4:36 PM
The only reason I am using the PS3 is because it's the only blu-ray player I have. I haven't purchased a blu-ray player yet for the house. But I figured it would be a good way to test my video. The Video I am making is not for the PS3 per-say.

I am referring to fast-forward and rewind. The PS3 does do 2x 3x 4x speed settings but that does not show up either as an option. When I try to fast-forward it says its not available. The video I made is 2 hours long, but it will only let me start from the beginning. Theres no skipping, fast forward or rewind option.

I do need a normal stand-alone BDR player but its just not bee necessary as far as I was concerned, yet. Maybe this is a reason to get one as the PS3 is not a good way to test my BDR burned video CD's.

So you are thinking the PS3 may not be interpreting the video file properly? In other words, I don't need to insert key frames every 60 seconds to " Enable " a fast forward / rewind feature of a player?

I've searched and all I can find on key framing is for animations. Nothing specific on FF/ RW.

I do appreciate your reply!
videoITguy wrote on 12/9/2012, 5:01 PM
It is possible to buy set-top player for less than 60 bucks, Although it would be nice if you had a bigger XMAS account this year.

Forget the PS3 it is problematic!
JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 5:18 PM
I would not be surprised. I noticed Even 3D players are not bad prices.


I have burned videos before and I have had a FF/RW option on the player, but this time... No Dice.


What I don't want to do though is make a bunch of Blu-Ray CD's only to find out I should have enabled something on the software to permit the fast foward / rewind option.


ETA:

And in other words do I need to set a specific setting in Vegas 11 to allow FF/RW features or is my PS3 just being a P O S ?
PeterDuke wrote on 12/9/2012, 6:06 PM
When you say CD do you mean BD (Blu-ray Disc), or do you mean BD content on DVD, perhaps? Or did you mean VCD coding on BD?
JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 6:06 PM
Sorry If I was not clear about it. It's a 25gig BDR.

I am using Optical Quantum 25gig blu ray media.

Ron Windeyer wrote on 12/9/2012, 7:54 PM
If you are playing a disk (as you are) you should be able to do this; it's just a bit tedious. The green triangle brings up the on-screen menu - if you hit this while playing the disk you will see a bunch of icons on the screen. Use the sticks to navigate; there is fast forward/play/pause/stop there; find the fast forward icon and select with the X button.
John_Cline wrote on 12/9/2012, 8:24 PM
I just use the inexpensive Media/Blu-ray remote with my PS3. Works great. My PS3 is my favorite media player, particularly when using the PS3 Media Server software on my PC.



JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 8:42 PM
All the controls can be done with the standard controller, correct.

I tried. It says this is " not available " after I just made the BDR cd with Vegas and DVD Architect.... It only lets me play it from the beginning of the BluRay.
Former user wrote on 12/9/2012, 8:45 PM
You can disable the FWD and REV buttons in DVDA and I just checked mine they are disabled by default for some reason. You might check and see if that fixes it.

Dave T2
JJTX99 wrote on 12/9/2012, 8:47 PM
Under what menu was this setting in?
Former user wrote on 12/9/2012, 8:53 PM
ON the right hand panel, under REMOTE BUTTONS.

Dave T2
rstrong wrote on 12/9/2012, 10:42 PM
I returned a Panasonic BD standalone player, because it too gave me the "not available" message. My LG and Sony BD standalone players have no problems.

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set wrote on 12/10/2012, 4:53 AM
hmm, I never had any of these issues, all BD-R play smooth. Marker buttons for Next/Prev points also no problems.

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JJTX99 wrote on 12/10/2012, 4:55 AM
Under remote buttons the only one that was OFF that would be relevant was the backward scan.

I changed it to ON. I guess what I need to do is get a BD player or try my current BD-R on a blu ray player and see what it does.
videoITguy wrote on 12/10/2012, 6:21 AM
If the so-called authoring locks for FFwd or Rewind at the remote have been turned to ON in the DVDAPro app, I would suggest that it was not a default setting, but rather the setting used in the last project saved. I have never seen the app open with any locks set - the default is the lowest level of all locks set to OFF.

SCS has admitted that because of bugs in the DVDAPro - that I believe the TITLE lock could be better suited to default OFF and there is really some consideration for different settings for default setting of subtitle deployment.

Never have I seen FFWD or REV or Prev/Next been the issue.
warriorking wrote on 12/10/2012, 7:53 AM
I have the exact same Blu-ray Media you stated and just finished burning a Blu-ray of my recent gig with DVDA6, fast forward ,reverse all work perfectly on my PS3 using its controller...
JJTX99 wrote on 12/10/2012, 2:28 PM
Is there a settings-dump that I can put into the channel for the group to look at to compare? I dont get what is different if another user is using a PS3 and it works fine.

ETA: As far as I know, the settings are the default settings... Could it be how the video was rendered with Vegas 11 ?
videoITguy wrote on 12/10/2012, 2:34 PM
PS3 have manufacturing iterations (that means, different hardware) and perhaps even firmware iterations. For the PS3 group - not familiar with here.
Ron Windeyer wrote on 12/10/2012, 5:43 PM
This is perplexing. What we have established is that a PS3 can and should do this, but yours doesn't. I don't have a solution; all I can suggest is troubleshooting to localize the problem.

Do you have a commercial Blu-ray disk, or even a DVD? If so, bang that into your PS3. If the FF/RW etc works on that, then your unit is OK. If not, problem found - the unit is dodgy. If this:
Is your PS3 connected to the internet - via wireless/wired network?
Do you update the operating system as required? I get regular updates.

If the unit passes:
Try burning another disk. Remote possibility of a bad burn/faulty disk. Don't know why it would play OK, but just suggesting everything.

If that doesn't help:
Must be something in the encoding/burning process. I don't know enough to help you there, but at least you may know where to look.

Best of luck.
JJTX99 wrote on 12/12/2012, 6:29 PM
There HAS been some progress.

There is cat6 to the unit so updates are done regularly. And I tried a commercial BDR Movie and the controls all worked fine. FF / RW etc etc.

What I did was go to the MENU selection as was suggested earlier and I clicked ON on all the menu options that it would let me. I burned the project again in DVDA-6. I also burned the previous 2nd CD which is from the same project, but it wont fit on my 25gig cds, so I had to make two CD's.

It will FF and RW. BUT, it will not always do it consistently. Sometimes I have to jump to the end and return to the front, take the CD out etc and then it allows FF and RW again. Same with the second CD I made. They will both FF / RW though in most cases. The PS3 may be a little buggy is all I can come up with.

If I put the CD ( CD as in the blu Ray CDs ) that I made originally without the menu option changes, it wont FF / RW. SO I can only assume this is the cause. But again I don't have anything but the PS3 to play these.

I need to acquire a stand-alone player and try them both again and find out what happens. I'm surprised these menu options have this effect in dvd architect, but apparently so.

SO, all seems well. This set is being given to someone for christmas so I will be sure to ask him if his player handles them ok as well.

I appreciate the groups help in here. I likely never would have though of the MENU option because I would have assumed this was a menu feature within the player, not the FF / RW being disabled entirely.


Thanks again! If the thread is still around when I get word from him if his FF / RW works I will post a follow up.




>Subject: RE: No Fast Forward or rewing on Sony PS3 console..
>Reply by: Ron Windeyer
>Date: 12/10/2012 5:43:39 PM
>
>This is perplexing. What we have established is that a PS3 can and should do >his, but yours doesn't. I don't have a solution; all I can suggest is >t>roubleshooting to localize the problem.>
>
>Do you have a commercial Blu-ray disk, or even a DVD? If so, bang that into >your PS3. If the FF/RW etc works on that, then your unit is OK. If not, problem >found - the unit is dodgy. If this:
>Is your PS3 connected to the internet - via wireless/wired network?
>Do you update the operating system as required? I get regular updates.
>
>If the unit passes:
>Try burning another disk. Remote possibility of a bad burn/faulty disk. Don't >know why it would play OK, but just suggesting everything.
>
>If that doesn't help:
>Must be something in the encoding/burning process. I don't know enough to >help you there, but at least you may know where to look.>
>
>Best of luck.

john_dennis wrote on 12/12/2012, 6:53 PM
You've got to stop calling everything that's round and shiny a CD.

There are Compact Discs

Then, there are DVDs

There were HD DVDs

Now, Blu-ray_Discs.

They are just not the same things.
JJTX99 wrote on 12/12/2012, 7:24 PM

Definitely true. However its quite well established that I am speaking about blu-ray media in this thread by now.





>Subject: RE: No Fast Forward or rewing on Sony PS3 console..
>Reply by: john_dennis
>Date: 12/12/2012 6:53:40 PM
>
>You've got to stop calling everything that's round and shiny a CD.
>
>There are Compact Discs
>
>Then, there are DVDs
>
>There were HD DVDs
>
>Now, Blu-ray_Discs.
>
>They are just not the same things.
videoITguy wrote on 12/12/2012, 7:36 PM
There is no such thing as Blu-ray CD. What you have got to be doing is creating Blu-ray optical discs by burning them in your PC with the DVDArchitect Pro application.

All consumer optical discs, be they CD, DVD, or Blu-ray media have a relfectivity measured across the surface area of the burn. This degree of reflectivity works with the player mechanism to interact with it. IF YOU WANT TO FIND THIS OUT FOR YOURSELF and DESTROY a DVD player for all time - insert a Blu-ray disc into it. The machine will take off like a jet-engine and possibly blow-up. This is due to disc relfectivity.

If a set-top player OR a PS3 are sensitive to the reflectivity of a given media optical disc you will get these kind of disc abberations - as evidenced by your experience and the reload/reset behavior of the PS3 local Blu-ray drive.