No Recompression Required

john_dennis wrote on 6/7/2014, 1:54 AM

It's a wonderful sight that I haven't seen for a long time.



Now, if my camera used that codec.

Comments

ushere wrote on 6/7/2014, 2:59 AM
which codec?
Arthur.S wrote on 6/7/2014, 3:36 AM
Rendering window sez XAVC...
ushere wrote on 6/7/2014, 4:46 AM
thanks, couldn't see it on my laptop....
nice to know.

hang on, just had another look and it says xavc s? where is the xavc s mxf template?

i was under the impression that it was only intra that smart rendered?

i'm just about to start using xavc (or maybe s if it smart renders?) on my usual hdv tl's, so was thinking i might as well stay with 1440 even if i can't use vlc to view the files with it squishing them.
Marco. wrote on 6/7/2014, 5:04 AM
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john_dennis wrote on 6/7/2014, 9:42 AM

ushere asked,

"Which codec?"

Sony XAVC / XAVC S (*.mxf, *.mp4)

I used one of the Intra options. I renamed it to show that I was using 1920x1080.

Edit: I replaced the screenshot to avoid confusion.

Here are the file properties for each step:

Source File

Complete name                            : D:\Archive 2014-01-05\_Photos\2013\2013-08-02 Drama Recital\MVI_0802.MOV

Format                                   : MPEG-4

Format profile                           : QuickTime

Codec ID                                 : qt  

File size                                : 948 MiB

Duration                                 : 3mn 46s

Overall bit rate                         : 35.1 Mbps

Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Canon

com.apple.quicktime.model                : Canon PowerShot G15

com.apple.quicktime.author               :         


Video

ID                                       : 1

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : Baseline@L4.1

Format settings, CABAC                   : No

Format settings, ReFrames                : 1 frame

Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12

Codec ID                                 : avc1

Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding

Duration                                 : 3mn 46s

Bit rate                                 : 33.6 Mbps

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate mode                          : Constant

Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.675

Stream size                              : 907 MiB (96%)

Language                                 : English

Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709


Audio

ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings, Endianness              : Little

Format settings, Sign                    : Signed

Codec ID                                 : sowt

Duration                                 : 3mn 46s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 1 536 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel positions                        : Front: L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 41.5 MiB (4%)

Language                                 : English

Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-08-02 21:13:20

 

 


Render to XAVC Intra

 

 

 

Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Desktop\XAVC\Let's Fly a Kite.MXF

Format                                   : MXF

Format profile                           : OP-1a

Format settings                          : Closed / Complete

File size                                : 1.16 GiB

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Overall bit rate                         : 92.5 Mbps

Encoded date                             : 2014-06-07 20:02:39.000

Writing application                      : SONY Vegas 13.0.0.310

Writing library                          : SONY Vegas 13.0.0.310


Video

ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High 4:2:2@L4.1

Format settings, CABAC                   : No

Format settings, GOP                     : N=1

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201323103

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate                                 : 90.9 Mbps

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps

Standard                                 : Component

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2

Bit depth                                : 10 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.829

Stream size                              : 1.14 GiB (98%)

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709


Audio #1

ID                                       : 3

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings, Endianness              : Little

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame (AES)

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 768 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 9.87 MiB (1%)


Audio #2

ID                                       : 4

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings, Endianness              : Little

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame (AES)

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 768 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 9.87 MiB (1%)


Other #1

ID                                       : 1

Type                                     : Time code

Format                                   : MXF TC

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00

Time code settings                       : Striped


Other #2

Type                                     : Time code

Format                                   : SMPTE TC

Muxing mode                              : SDTI

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00



Smart Rendered File

 

 

 

Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Desktop\XAVC\XAVC HD 1920x1080 Intra 23.976p.MXF

Format                                   : MXF

Format profile                           : OP-1a

Format settings                          : Closed / Complete

File size                                : 1.16 GiB

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Overall bit rate                         : 92.5 Mbps

Encoded date                             : 2014-06-07 20:09:11.000

Writing application                      : SONY Vegas 13.0.0.310

Writing library                          : SONY Vegas 13.0.0.310


Video

ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High 4:2:2@L4.1

Format settings, CABAC                   : No

Format settings, GOP                     : N=1

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201323103

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate                                 : 90.9 Mbps

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps

Standard                                 : Component

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2

Bit depth                                : 10 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.829

Stream size                              : 1.14 GiB (98%)

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709


Audio #1

ID                                       : 3

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings, Endianness              : Little

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame (AES)

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 768 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 9.87 MiB (1%)


Audio #2

ID                                       : 4

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings, Endianness              : Little

Format_Settings_Wrapping                 : Frame (AES)

Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000

Duration                                 : 1mn 47s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 768 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 9.87 MiB (1%)


Other #1

ID                                       : 1

Type                                     : Time code

Format                                   : MXF TC

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00

Time code settings                       : Striped


Other #2

Type                                     : Time code

Format                                   : SMPTE TC

Muxing mode                              : SDTI

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00

 

OldSmoke wrote on 6/7/2014, 1:04 PM
Only XAVC Intra does smart render, XAVC-S Long GOP doesn't or let's say not yet.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Tech Diver wrote on 6/7/2014, 2:02 PM
Now if only XDCAM EX would smart render again.

Peter
OldSmoke wrote on 6/7/2014, 4:02 PM
I prefer XAVC-S would smart render; that is the format recorded by the FDR-AX100.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

John_Cline wrote on 6/7/2014, 5:16 PM
I'd be very happy if Cineform smart rendered again.
ushere wrote on 6/7/2014, 7:01 PM
thanks jd, you had me a bit confused there ;-)

+1 for xdcam ex smart rendering again!!!!!

24Peter wrote on 6/8/2014, 8:38 PM
I just searched the SONY knowledgebase on this so I'm pretty sure the answer is no - but thought I'd ask: I am re-rendering a 1hr:25mn SONY AVC .mp4 because I screwed up one name in the last card of the end credits. Could I have taken the original rendered file, created a new project in VP13, changed the last credit via edit and then re-rendered to the same format in less time using Smart Render? (I know - [I]smart[/I] would have been to check my end credits mo' better in the first place...)
john_dennis wrote on 6/9/2014, 12:05 AM
If the render template had "Intra" in the name, probably. Otherwise, likely not.
riredale wrote on 6/9/2014, 11:00 AM
Smart rendering has become a big deal to me. I still shoot in HDV and it is SO COOL to be able to render a big project overnight and then never have to do an overnight render again on that project, even though I invariably find little things that need fixing or tweaking. Makes me happy the same way that having a "TSA Pre" pass does when I go to the airport. I hate long lines.