No Render Speed Increase w/New Video Card

NDennis wrote on 1/14/2015, 4:23 PM
Movie Studio Platinum 12.0 - Latest update

Just installed a new Evga GTX 750 TI video card with 2 gig of ram and I am not seeing any rendering speed increase at all.

I have "Encode mode" set to "Render using CUDA if available" but I also tested the other two settings.

Any idea what else I need to do?

Comments

NormanPCN wrote on 1/14/2015, 4:28 PM
The Mainconcept AVC GPU encoders are hardcoded to specific GPU architectures and newer designs are not supported. This is true on Nvidia and AMD.

Peter100 wrote on 1/14/2015, 4:36 PM
The best option for now seems to be GTX 570/580 or Raden 290/290x. Please search the forum for more information. There were many threads about it.
NDennis wrote on 1/14/2015, 5:10 PM
This is one of the most popular video cards ever and they do not support it.

So I'm just out $200.00?

Thanks for the reply but still angry.
NDennis wrote on 1/14/2015, 5:13 PM
My son has a 560 GTX - Will that work if we swap?
Peter100 wrote on 1/14/2015, 5:18 PM
As far as I know, it should, but not as good as gtx 570/580.

P.S. You are asking about Movie Studio Platinum 12.0. I know these cards support Vegas Pro 11-13, so probably they should work with MSP, but you have to check it.
NDennis wrote on 1/14/2015, 5:28 PM
Thanks, we'll try it. Anything is better than the 7 hours it's taking me.
OldSmoke wrote on 1/14/2015, 5:30 PM
@Dennis

I can understand your disappointment. What is it you are after? Faster render times with Mainconcept AVC or Sony AVC for Internet delivery or better timeline performance and support for 3rd party plug ins?

The GTX570/580 will get you the best render performance for the two codecs I mentioned above.
A HD6970 or HD7950 will be almost as fast but also provide better timeline performance with 3rd party plug ins.
A R9 290/290X will give you the best timeline performance but the Mainconcept AVC and Sony AVC codecs don't support it and your render speed will be as fast as CPU only. On the other hand, MPEG2 encoding is very fast with these cards.

If you don't mind, please fill in your system specs and make it visible to the forum. Depending on your system, you may not get the full benefit of a R9 290/290X.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 1/15/2015, 8:26 AM
@ " This is one of the most popular video cards ever .....


For gaming..
BruceUSA wrote on 1/15/2015, 4:59 PM
You can watch this video see it for yourself. As it has been mentioned many times on this forum. AMD cards are better for Vegas and work well.

https://vimeo.com/116909126?utm_source=email&utm_medium=clip-transcode_complete-finished-20120100&utm_campaign=7701&email_id=Y2xpcF90cmFuc2NvZGVkfDQxZjk3ODdmNDNiYTcxYmIzYmQ1N2YzNTNjNTU2NWI5NzgxfDEwNTExNDk1fDE0MjEzNjE4MDh8NzcwMQ%3D%3D

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OldSmoke wrote on 1/15/2015, 6:10 PM
+1 Bruce

That's how it should be. My R9 290 and 3930K@4.3GHz render to the same template in 29sec.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

ddm wrote on 1/15/2015, 6:29 PM
Wow. Nice. Very tempting.
NDennis wrote on 1/17/2015, 11:56 AM
Okay, I had to buy a new power supply because my old 300 watt power supply was too small.

Got the new 850 watt power supply installed and installed my sons video card and it works nicely.

Tested it and a video that was taking 7 hours to render now takes 2.5 hours to render. Much faster!

Thank you everyone.
OldSmoke wrote on 1/17/2015, 4:22 PM
GPU acceleration; when it works it really works!

Did you use MC AVC for rendering to MP4 or Sony AVC?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Arthur.S wrote on 1/18/2015, 6:47 AM
@Oldsmoke. I've been hovering over the 290X for a while, what's putting me off is that my system was built with a 280X (over a year ago now) and whilst the preview etc was great, I had a big problem with all of my monitors flashing every time I clicked out of the main Vegas window - say to my tool boxes. (My setup: 1 'main' monitor for Vegas. 1 monitor for tool boxes, 1 HDTV for preview out). After trying everything I could think of, and whatever my system builder suggested - inc a new card. In the end they swapped it out for an Nvidia GTX 770. Problem cured. So the obvious question is; Do you or any other Vegas/290X user encounter these flashes?
Just to point out, there was another 280X user a while back that suffered same problems, though they never posted back if they found a cure.
dxdy wrote on 1/18/2015, 7:53 AM
@Arthur.S: My 290X does not have the flash problem you describe. Veg 13.
OldSmoke wrote on 1/18/2015, 8:49 AM
@Arthur

No I don't have that problem.

But, I did have an issue with a faulty HDMI connector on the cable that connects my HDTV. It took me a while to find the issue but it sounds a bit similar to your problem. When ever I switched on the TV, the card sometimes wouldn't find it and even when it was off, Windows would occasionally play the sound that a new device is connected and my monitors would go black for second.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Arthur.S wrote on 1/18/2015, 12:31 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Would have thought a faulty HDMI would still have been there with the replacement 280X and then the GTX 770. What's the difference (as far as Vegas is concerned) between the 290 and 290X? Oh, and the 290 Tri-X??
OldSmoke wrote on 1/18/2015, 1:14 PM
The 290x has additional stream processors over the 290 and runs at a higher clock speed; I would say you gain about 5-10%. As far as I can see, the Tri-X has 3 fans but is essentially a R9 290X.
In any case, all of these are running hot and I didn't even bother to test it but immediately converted my 2x R9 290 to water-cooled; so much quieter and I can even OC the cards if necessary. Another thing to keep unmanned is power consumption, you need a good powers supply for it.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 1/19/2015, 11:41 AM
FWIW -- Heat & Power with R9


It has been my experience that AMD cards have a default fan speed of <50%...

I have used the catalyst control to manually set fan to at least about 70% to get the GPU temp down at least 20c ..

Of course, if you don't like the extra noise, this would not be an option to explore...
BruceUSA wrote on 1/19/2015, 12:33 PM
What heats? when you get this? EK Waterblock.


CPU:  i9 Core Ultra 285K OCed @5.6Ghz  
MBO: MSI Z890 MEG ACE Gaming Wifi 7 10G Super Lan, thunderbolt 4
RAM: 48GB RGB DDR5 8200mhz
GPU: NVidia RTX 5080 16GB Triple fan OCed 3100mhz, Bandwidth 1152 GB/s     
NVMe: 2TB T705 Gen5 OS, 4TB Gen4 storage
MSI PSU 1250W. OS: Windows 11 Pro. Custom built hard tube watercooling