Thanks jetdv ..i was hoping for that ..but a PAL copy (several actually) were requested specifically. This is to be bonus DVD material to be added to a primarily audio CD deal. My agent over there wants the DVD's to be played with zero problems by the exec's he's pitching as the material is quite germain (as well as German ;-) ) to the deal .
thanks for the reply

i was trying to be clever...i looked it up it's spelled "germane" . My word for the day

After looking this over..
Do I have to recapture my concert video as PAL?

I could send the whole edited concert out to my DV camera and recapture.
Is there a script or plugin that would be easier than this?
When I change properties the aspect changes (everything streches as I expected) If I render, it will probably do the same thing.is that correct?

thanks for any help..I may have mis represented how easy this could be done.
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Just render as PAL. Then create a PAL DVD project.

thanks jetdv

i was hoping that was the procedure...i wasn't sure if the aspect ratio would be corrected in rendering or if it was attached to the original capture.

Thanks for the reply I did'nt want to waste time rendering incorrectly.

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jetdv
I started the render and the aspect ratio was off(according to what I see in the preview window)...the NTSC 720-480 is being stretched to 720-576 PAL...making everyone tall and skinny..usually not a problem in life, just video. The 'stretch video to fill' box is UNCHECKED . I thought at worst I would get letterboxing...but it is still streching the video...any thoughts.

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You also have to adjust the aspect ratio. Should be 1.0926 for PAL.

Marco

thanks taliesin

what is the proper way to change the aspect ratio for the entire project?

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when using the PAL template in project properties it changes the aspect ratio to the correct PAL ratio but the video is stil streched...not zoomed in or letter boxed to accomodate the extra lines....help

I'm assuming there is a way to tell vegas to take this ntsc video and make it pal and then let me decide what to do (crop, stretch or letter box) but i most certainly could be in error as I am new to the program. Might this be something that is done in DVD Architect?

for that matter does the ntsc spec carry through all the way to the mini dv camera. What I mean is if you want to do true PAL do you have to start with the camera...?


thanks for the help

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Oh, maybe my advise was a bad one. After reading your posts again and taking a look into Vegas I realized that the aspect ratio should be automatically updated to PAL values in the render dialog if you simply choose a PAL DVD template.
To be sure you could try also setting your project properties to PAL DV (menu: File/Properties: Template). But now I doubt this would work. Sorry for the confusion if it does not help.

Marco

P.S.
Saw you already tested it and it does not work.

Where did you watch the rendered file then? - Do you have PAL equipment to test it? If not - you might send me a single frame by mail to mb[at]vegasvideo[dot]de

Marco

thanks taliesin

I haven't rendered the file fully to PAL yet. When I start the render I can see the incorrect aspect in the preview window as it slowly progresses. I am assuming what I see is what I get and that if the preview window is wrong so will be the render. I may be wrong about this.

The affect is the same as taking a photo 720-480 in photoshop and resampling it at 720-576 without maintaining ratio.. it stretches to fill the 94 lines instead of croping the 720 and maintaining ratio.

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taliesin' you may have struck upon my problem....is the aspect supposed to look wrong on my computer so that it will look right on PAL equipment..

(the soundeffect to that thought is doooh..as in Homer Simpson)

I may be wrongly assuming that Vegas would show the file in it's proper ratio...while working in either format.

bb

Firstly forget about using the camera to recapture. Even if you had a PAL/NTSC camera and to the best of my knowledge no such camera exists, it'd still not do a PAL <-> NTSC conversion. The DSR-11 VCR will handle both, but cannot convert e.g. you put a PAL tape in it, you get PAL out. Switch it to record NTSC and feed it PAL, nothing gets recorded.
You can correct the AR problem in Vegas, I think you need nothing more than the "Maintain Aspect Ratio" button checked when you render out. Do a simple test, make a peice of generated media in NTSC with a large circle. Check that it looks like a circle, now render out using whatever you're testing, it should still be a circle.
If you want the best possible result get this done on high end gear. Go to a dub house that has S&W or the like. Be prepared to pay a bit but the results will be worth it. You can either have this done to a NTSC tape you've made of your project OR have all your source material converted and load that into a PAL version of your project. The later will take more time but depending on how many FXs your using will give better results.
But a warning, the dub house will give you back a PAL tape and you'll need something to capture that. Apart from a DSR-11 VCR I know of no low end gear that you're likely to find in a NSTC environment that'll handle PAL.

Thanks farss

I'll do some checking into my options..thanks for helping get a handle on this.
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