Nvidia NVENC on Quadro1100M

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 4:44 AM

hi,

I was testing nvidia encoder implemented in V15 and have serious issues with encoding 4k using this codec

The only template that works normally is default one, but it's limited to 24MBit in average

Even if I set 135Mbit, it's limited to around 50Mbit in result file.

When I'm trying to use other nvenc preset and rc mode, I'm getting black screen or artifacts.

 

Any advice how to get higher bitrates and not loose quality in final file?

Using Nvidia latest drivers for GPU

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Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

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snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 4:55 AM

Are we talking about the Magix AVC encoders/templates?

yes, Magix AVC/AAC MP4 - with selected Nvidia NVENC

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:00 AM

Does your card have only 2GB GPU RAM? If yes, than its not enough for 4K NVENC rendering.

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:06 AM

Does your card have only 2GB GPU RAM? If yes, than its not enough for 4K NVENC rendering.

yes 2GB

is there any official info on this? I'm able to render 4k without problems with default template and without any customizations, so not 100% true that it can't render 4k

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:21 AM

I had a 2GB GPU as well with the same problems. You can install a tool like CPU Z for GPU and see how the graphics card VRAM gets full. Switched for a 6GB GPU and everything works well. I have contacted MAGIX in this matter but they know nothing about it.

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:25 AM

I had a 2GB GPU as well with the same problems. You can install a tool like CPU Z for GPU and see how the graphics card VRAM gets full. Switched for a 6GB GPU and everything works well. I have contacted MAGIX in this matter but they know nothing about it.

thanks for info!

need to experiment with quicksync, the only problem I have with this once I have my laptop in docking station integrated card takes control and support for QS is removed from the codec/template list

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:36 AM

Here on laptop no problem at all. 14 sec of 4K DJI drone source took 21 sec to render with Magix AVC NVENC highest possible CBR. Result had average bitrate of 236 Mbps. Look for yourself

what GPU you have?

i set to the same settings as yours and result (lower bitrate then selected and artifacts)

so hard to say what is causing this... vegas or drivers or the card is not enough for this coded

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Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:42 AM

Do you apply any video FX?

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:42 AM

nope, just plain video without any mods

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:43 AM

what GPU you have?

Like yours I stated that in my signature

you have different card, I have quadro k1100m with 2GB

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 6:05 AM

you have different card, I have quadro k1100m with 2GB

That means its your problem. Nothing wrong with the program neither its encoders.
Look a picture from my testfile with also its properties

yeah, that's why i made this topic especially for quadro

could someone from Magix make a comment on this, don't want to buy the product and would not be able to use my card to render movies

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

snacky wrote on 11/10/2017, 6:25 AM

This is what i found on the official website: http://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/specifications/#productMenu

"NVIDIA

1 GB recommended for 4K — required for Smart Zoom/Smart Scale/Smart adaptive deinterlacing, and GPU-accelerated video processing.

For hardware rendering (NVEnc):

GeForce 600 series onwards (6xx, 7xx, 9xx, 10xx)

Quadro Kxxx, Mxxx and Pxxx"

 

//

raised ticket with magix support team, not sure if they will talk with trial user :-)

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Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/10/2017, 6:58 AM

This is an outdated info, they should update it.

liork wrote on 11/10/2017, 7:37 AM

I have contacted Magix in this matter, but someone from the help desk kept reffering me like a robot to this outdated page...

NickHope wrote on 11/10/2017, 10:05 PM

raised ticket with magix support team, not sure if they will talk with trial user :-)

Useless, because the NVidia GPU (GTX 580)stated in your signature does not suite the specs :

GeForce 600 series onwards (6xx, 7xx, 9xx, 10xx)

There are 2 computers in his signature. Per his previous comment, I assume he's talking about his laptop with a Quadro k1100m.

liork wrote on 11/11/2017, 2:30 AM

nope, just plain video without any mods

If you are reffering to the computer with 2GB GPU RAM, than this is why its working for you. Try adding some FX plugins and you'll see it stop rendering right.

snacky wrote on 11/11/2017, 8:14 AM

hi, yeah I updated my signature with my #1 laptop specs also, also thread name point that it's an issue with quadro card.

support told me to switch off GPU acceleration in properties and run Vegas as an admin

but nothing helps

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

snacky wrote on 11/20/2017, 7:34 AM

quick update, so I contacted Magix support and looks like nobody wants to troubleshoot or fix the problem with Nvidia Encoder issue

they offered me that I can return the product and get a refund in 14 days
I think this is very unprofessional approach, I'm willing to help troubleshooting this and cooperate to make the product better

 

is anyone from Magix is on this forum? maybe this can be escalated somewhere

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

VEGAS_CommunityManager wrote on 11/20/2017, 9:14 AM

Hi @snacky,

I had a look at your ticket and unfortunately your statement is not quite accurate.

The support said, that we will have a look at your sample video you sent. This should indicate to you, that we are trying to understand the issue in detail.

Regarding the refund offer: The support offered this because you wanted to have a compensation which (I guess) is not something the support can agree to.

The whole conversation was friday. So, please, have a little bit more patience while we have a look at the given sample.

Best regards,
Mathias Hoppe
Community Manager

snacky wrote on 11/20/2017, 9:18 AM

Hi @snacky,

I had a look at your ticket and unfortunately your statement is not quite accurate.

The support said, that we will have a look at your sample video you sent. This should indicate to you, that we are trying to understand the issue in detail.

Regarding the refund offer: The support offered this because you wanted to have a compensation which (I guess) is not something the support can agree to.

The whole conversation was friday. So, please, have a little bit more patience while we have a look at the given sample.

Best regards,
Mathias Hoppe
Community Manager

thanks, was thinking Magix is not willing to investigate and offered this... that was my conlcusion

let me know if you need any more info from me, I'm ready to cooperate on this..

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

VEGAS_EricD wrote on 11/20/2017, 10:49 AM

@snacky What is the ticket number for your support ticket?

snacky wrote on 11/20/2017, 11:12 AM

@snacky What is the ticket number for your support ticket?

hi it's Ticket#2017111017003609

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/20/2017, 1:11 PM

Hello Magix team, you need to update system requirements, for 4K NVENC rendering, video card with 2GB GPU is not enough. When you add some FX plugins, rendering starts getting blank frames, strange colors etc.

snacky wrote on 11/20/2017, 4:16 PM

Hello Magix team, you need to update system requirements, for 4K NVENC rendering, video card with 2GB GPU is not enough. When you add some FX plugins, rendering starts getting blank frames, strange colors etc.

This have nothing to do with 2GB GPU memory limitation. I'm testing now with brand new laptop with Quadro 4GB and have the same issues. Artifacts or black screen on final video when rendering with NVENC

Desktop: MB:x58a-ud3r, CPU: i7-930, 6GB RAM (OCZ,triple channel) GPU: GTX580, ATI 5830

Laptop #1 Lenovo W541, i7-4810Mq 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM, GPU: K1100M 2GB

Laptop #2 Lenovo P50, i7-6820HQ 2.7GHz, Intel HD Graphics 530, 32 GB DDR4, GPU Quadro  M1000M 4GB

 

liork wrote on 11/21/2017, 2:12 AM

Download software like GPUShark and check how much GPU ram is used while rendering.