One Big File or 60 Short Clips

papaterry wrote on 11/7/2008, 9:56 PM
If I shoot with mini dv, no matter how many stop/starts I do, when I capture to cmputer I have ONE FILE. I then take that into Pinnacle Studio, dump it on the timeline and create capters on a menu and burn your dvd right in Studio.
With my HDD camcorders, when you stop/start recording repeatedly, you create a new clip every time. I wind up with many, many short clips, but in Studio you just dump all the little clips on the timeline and make your chapters as before. OK, now I have Vegas Pro 8 and DVD Architect. Before I can make my DVD it seems I have to use Vegas to create ONE big file with chapter markers and then take it into DVDA. I cannot open DVDA and just start adding the short clips one after another on the timeline and create that ONE file with chapter markers as I did in Studio. I could add the clips, one after another to menu pages, but they would not play one after another on the DVD; I would have to click on each of them individually on a menu page. I don't know if I'm expressing this the way I want it to be understood. Maybe someone can give me some feedback if I'm making sense. Thanks!

Terry

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jetdv wrote on 11/8/2008, 6:56 AM
While I personally prefer having one big file in most cases, you certainly can just start adding a bunch of clips. There's a couple of "compilation" options that will give you what you want. For example, right-click and add a "Music/Video Compilation" to your menu, in the lower right - click on "Compilation", and then drag all of the files to there. Then they'll all play back to back.
TOG62 wrote on 11/8/2008, 7:09 AM
There is a snag to this method, which is that each clip will become a chapter, but you can't add any other chapter marks.

Mike
papaterry wrote on 11/8/2008, 8:45 AM
Thanks friends. Yeh, I see I'd end up with 60 or more chapters when i record a football game, unless i just keep the camera running. Hmmmm.....

Terry
Terry Esslinger wrote on 11/10/2008, 9:57 AM
This must be an effect from using an HDD camcorder. I use an HDV camcorder and can bring the capture the file (which consists of start and stops before and after every play) as one long file and then add markers as chapters where I want. Or have I missed the point of this thread?
papaterry wrote on 11/19/2008, 11:23 AM
Hi. Been gone since last post. Terry, thanks for input. Yeh, in DVDA you have to add your HDV media or in my case, AVC, one file at a time to the project and each file creates a chapter and a menu button all its own. So, with a ball game I would wind up with maybe 60 buttons/chapters, which is a lot of buttons/chapters. There's no apparent way in DVDA to sort of "merge" files together and achieve, say, 30 buttons/chapters across a 5 page menu. Alternately, you can begin in Vegas Pro, render all those 60 clips into one file with markers where you want chapters created by DVDA and then import that long file into DVDA and create the menu structure. See, I'm used to Pinnacle Studio where DVD authoring is integrated with the editing program and you plop all those 60 short clips on the timeline, insert a menu at the start, set your chapter breaks wherever you wish and click Make Movie. In VegasPro from the timeline you can create a Blu Ray disc with your markers creating chapters if you check the box (Tools>Burn>Blu ray ) or a Video CD but not a DVD.
Terry Esslinger wrote on 11/19/2008, 2:19 PM
While I hahve an HDV cam (FX1) I have benn recording the football games in SD as the coaches do not have HDV watching capability. I could record in HD and have he cam downconvert it but decided against it. I have scene detection turned off so that the entire game is dcaptured as one long file. I then go through and put markers at the beginning of each play. That way when the coaches are watching they can use their remote "next' button to jump from play to play or back to the beginning of the play they are watching. I sometimes will leave the hgame as one long movie with no menu or sometimes I break it into quarters with a button for each quarter.
papaterry wrote on 11/19/2008, 3:56 PM
That looks like an awesome camera, Terry. Do you have to do a lot with manual settings or can you just go auto all the way and get good results?
About this question of mine, I see FX1 records to mini dv like my Sony SR1 and so you have one big file (with scenes then detected when I captured in Pinnacle Studio) no matter how many times you pause the recording during the game. With my SR11 HDD you have the numerous files, a new one created every time you pause and then start record again, and so you import the files to the puter and work from there. I will simply have to start in Vegas with all those little clips on the timeline, add markers and render into one media file for dvd work in Architect. I actually came close to returning my SR11 and getting back to mini dv, but in hi def. Are you happy with your camera?
Terry Esslinger wrote on 11/21/2008, 11:09 AM
Absolutely LOVE it.