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Grazie wrote on 10/10/2002, 12:56 AM
Charles - You are correct. You can't open more than project at a time. This has been discussed before, you can do a search on our Forum and see the conclusions and ideas and - unfortunately, it is not possible. So, making rendered AVIs of each section, and yes, bringing this into one "Major" project is the only way to go. "Do I have to produce each sec at a time to avi then combine?" Yes and then work them into a final "distribution" method as you wish. I can Print to Tape using cueing methods, to get all sections onto tape.

You've raised an interesting issue. I've started to get to grips with the look 'n feel of my videos. Having this in one project is valuable - but could be risky, IT is flaky stuff! Yes? I've begun to treat my video projects much like some of the Word Documents I produce for organisations.

1. I produce a "Draft" - sticking in all my ideas
2. I redraft that draft - take stuff out put stuff in
3. Break down the project in feasible "Chunks".
4. Define these "Chunks" as Chapters

.... and so on.

Making a video from a "script" or "film-order" naturally determines sections of the film project/s.

Or... put all your footage into one project. Review that footage. Call that Project "Master- My Project". Save it. Now look at it again. Decide which parts naturally fall into sections. So, "Section 1 - MyProject" - delete everything you don't want and save as "Section 1 - MyProject". Then open "Master- My Project" again and repeat until you've got through the whole project. Of course this is dependant on HD space. The other thing I do is to "Review" all the stuff prior to going any where near the pc. I then fill out a "Tape Log Sheet" - You know the kind of thing: Shot; Timecode/Time; Description and Remarks. I've found this extremely useful.

I know this is some way from your original question, but I too have come up against the "What way is best - if I can't bring back all parts of the project into one!" Well for me, I need to give myself more options of viewing and reviewing what I've done and then decide which working method is best for me and that project at that time. In essence its about the final "Look 'n Feel" of the vid project, or what I've come to understand as the Cinematography of the project. I've had to push myself to review and re-review my footage to get down to the actual "core" of the footage. It can be boring. But can also be a method of capturing further ideas. This will producing a Film log described above, and will naturally create the basis of the Edit log as well. Then and only then start to get to grips with it in VF. I've used/wasted a mountain of time by immeadiately and enthusiastically going into VF. As I said, having an original shoot list or storyboard or at elast a simple construction-set of the vid in your head is a place to start.

"What is best way to save when you are not through with project?" - tricky, this one. Do you want to remove the whole project from your hard disc because of lack of space and you want to get on with another project? Is that right? Well, I'm a liitle out of my depth here, but this is to do with the type of "library file" VF produces. I came across this recently when I saw this at a Adobe Premiere demonstration. But maybe it is not available within VF. I too can delete files assicaited with a VF project, but then I end up with a project that is devoid of its bits 'n pieces. Then on re-openning same project Hang-on in there, Charles, somebody else will jump in here and gives both of us a few tips.

Regards

Grazie
IanG wrote on 10/10/2002, 3:25 AM
Grazie

I agree with a lot of what you say, but for me, coming to VF from the restricted background of Studio, planning is difficult. The more I do the more possibilities I come across and the more the plans change. I think the lesson is to work in small chunks so that you can keep track of the overall objective while still having fun playing with the options.

Cheers

Ian G.
Grazie wrote on 10/10/2002, 3:28 AM
Agreed (oooh that was concise of me!)

Grazie
Sarasdad wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:18 AM
Thank you very much as usual.
Former user wrote on 10/10/2002, 9:12 AM
I have not tried this, but see if it works.

Open two instances of VF. Open project 1 in one instance. Open project 2 in the other. Copy all of Project 2 and Paste into project 1.

Dave T2
laz111 wrote on 10/10/2002, 9:19 AM
This Video Joiner utility is free for 7 days. It joins avi or mpeg files together. http://www.doeasier.org/joiner/

Good luck.
IanG wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:44 PM
Doesn't work, I'm afraid. You can only run one instance at a time. Cutting and pasting between projects in a single instance doesn't work either.

Cheers

Ian G.
IanG wrote on 10/10/2002, 5:50 PM
I haven't tried this app, but unless it can do transitions, titling etc. I think Grazie's suggestion of bringing the avis into a master project gives more options. Plus it's free. I'd be interested to see what happens if you edit and then re-render one of the sub-projects. Will the master project be able to cope?

Cheers

Ian G.
Grazie wrote on 10/11/2002, 12:41 AM
Ian, exactly what doesn't work? My idea or what?

Grazie
IanG wrote on 10/11/2002, 4:02 AM
Grazie, sorry, I replied to 2 postings! It's cutting and pasting between 2 instances of VF that doesn't work - you can only run 1.

I like your idea of organising projects hierarchicaly, what I'd like to know is what happens if I change an avi used in a higher level project. Will VF find that things are in the wrong place?

Cheers

Ian G.
nism wrote on 10/12/2002, 11:42 AM
Hi,

I am not sure this could solve your problem but if we have finish editing one portion, PTT it back, then edit another and PTT that also, wouldn't it be the 'final' version that you wanted?

You really have to plan everything to do to this, propably a short title or description of what the story is all about or story line, or you can do what the pros do - storyboard !!

I have the same problem when I first want to 'direct a story', but to make long story short, there is no harm of taking notes or title every scene you capture, no matter how plenty it is going to be, you will find peace when you know where you are in a middle of a project.

c ya...