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OldSmoke wrote on 12/12/2014, 1:31 PM
Well... if you trust Seagate drives.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

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John_Cline wrote on 12/12/2014, 2:53 PM
Yes, but now you can instantly lose up to 8TB of data on a single inexpensive drive, that is a significant leap in technology!
GeeBax wrote on 12/12/2014, 3:05 PM
You have convinced me, I am going to rush out and buy one so I can lose the data :-)
SecondWind-SK wrote on 12/12/2014, 5:04 PM
it's always good to have a plan.

Steve
FPP wrote on 12/12/2014, 5:35 PM
Is it possible that Seagate knowing that this large capacity storage device will be used by Video folks for archiving and that they may have actually improved their product?
I would love to have that much bang for the buck myself. But the price is a little too cheap.
What are some of the best ways to determine a quality Archive HDD, other than reputation and trial and error.
I use a Western Digital 1tb for system backup and I would like a separate high capacity for just Audio/Video archiving.. Maybe 4 to 8 TB's.
Any suggestions?.. I hate getting rid of any footage even if I don't need it for months or even years.
John_Cline wrote on 12/12/2014, 6:02 PM
Most of the stuff I do often gets reused/repurposed, so I hang on to everything. Considering that the archive drive isn't going to be used continuously and ultimately won't get that many hours on it, I have no inherent problem with these drives. Of the handful of Seagate drives I've had that have failed, they didn't fail until they had thousands of hours on them. That said, I have never had a Hitachi (HGST) drive fail ever.
astar wrote on 12/12/2014, 9:15 PM
The raid industry must be loving these large TB drives. In fact I believe someone in the Raid industry bought seagate and drove down quality, so that we as consumers would need to buy 2-3x the drives we do now. ;) conspiracy? I think so. ;)
Kit wrote on 12/12/2014, 9:25 PM
I've had bad experiences with Seagate so much as I would like an 8GB drive I think I will wait until Hitachi bring one out.
craftech wrote on 12/12/2014, 10:08 PM
Yes, but now you can instantly lose up to 8TB of data on a single inexpensive drive, that is a significant leap in technology!
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Thanks John, that made my day.

John

Rob Franks wrote on 12/12/2014, 10:37 PM
"Yes, but now you can instantly lose up to 8TB of data on a single inexpensive drive, that is a significant leap in technology!"

YUP.
I don't go any bigger than 2TB for that very reason. Rather have the work spread out over a number of drives, and even with that a 2TB loss is still a LOT!
Chienworks wrote on 12/13/2014, 6:36 AM
"Yes, but now you can instantly lose up to 8TB of data on a single inexpensive drive, that is a significant leap in technology!"

Reminds me back in the Apple // days when there was an addendum at the back of the AppleDOS manual about Farnsworth T. Hornswoggle's WOM, "write only memory". He claimed to have created a chip that could hold 5 Megabytes! (Well, do remember this is back in the pre-consumer hard drive days when floppies held 140Kb and system RAM was often 16KB.) It was guaranteed forever and would never lose any data stored in it. The only drawback was that it could never be read. Reportedly the US goobermint had made a deal to purchase the entire stock for their archiving purposes.

I tend to only buy drives that are half the size of the latest capacity. That gives the manufacturers a year or two to work the bugs out of that design.
johnmeyer wrote on 12/13/2014, 10:29 AM
I didn't know about that much later write-only memory joke. I do remember the original one, perpetrated by Electronics magazine in 1972, ten years before Apple did it:

Write-only Memory Joke

Arthur.S wrote on 12/13/2014, 11:32 AM
Have to agree with you Chien. PLUS...have another 'twin' drive as back up. I had a back up drive fail a couple of years ago, although I did manage to recover the data on it. So now I always back up the back up. Drives are cheaper enough to do that now.