What is so "crummy" about Vimeo exactly. You can pay to use BTW and password protect your content.
Come to think of it what is so crummy about Youtube?

Perhaps this is a case of 'I wouldn't want my video seen on a site that'd accept my content' ?

Bob.

exposure room is my personal favourite, think it looks better than vimeo and you tube.
It is also more picky about the type of films you can post.
If you check out some of the people posting films there, i think that will be a recommendation in itself.

I like blip.tv as it allows you to embed/link to the original video (which mine are DivX) and it is set up in a channel fashion. This means that all of your episodes play from newest to oldest in a flash format or you can click directly on the video and it will take you to its own player where you can select the original format if you choose.

By the way, if anyone has DivX 6pro you can upgrade your serial to 7 for 10 USD.

j razz

I came across smugmug the other day and thought it looked pretty good. Only looked at some photo galleries but notice they host video too.

QUOTE: "What is so "crummy" about Vimeo exactly. You can pay to use BTW and password protect your content.
Come to think of it what is so crummy about Youtube?

Perhaps this is a case of 'I wouldn't want my video seen on a site that'd accept my content' ?

Bob."

I think you know what I mean, you tell some one to watch a video you posted on youtube their like 'oh, youtube'. For young audiences it is accepted as TV but for a lot of people it has a pretty bad reputation. Not to say that there isn't plenty of good stuff on there but I personally think that it is over run by any bum with camcorder (or camera or phone these days) and that it should be more regulated.. but that's me. Vimeo looked better...but not too sure yet....'

I am not sure what that last coment meant... My content would be rated G and accepted by anyone.

Thanks for the rest of the suggestions..

J

"does any one know of a place on line to post Good videos?"

What, as opposed to a place where someone can post bad videos? What exactly makes your videos too "good" for Vimeo?

There's nothing stopping you from hosting them yourself on your own "classy" website. Of course, you're going to have to do a lot of promotion to drive eyeballs to your site to see your videos.

> "Perhaps this is a case of 'I wouldn't want my video seen on a site that'd accept my content' ?

"I am not sure what that last coment meant... My content would be rated G and accepted by anyone."

It was a joke. Bob was adapting one of Groucho Marx's great lines - the original was about club membership.

Of course 99% of what's on Youtube is trash. On Vimeo the ratio is much better but going downhill a bit of late I think. Same will apply to any such site. Either they attract enough people sharing to create enough eyeballs watching to in turn create enough ad revenue to make the thing pay or they go broke. They simply cannot afford to be selective.

Even if you pay the site operator has a problem, they need enough paying clients and that's very hard to get when the competition is free. Another problem is some of the more select sites that were around required the user to install viewers and codecs etc.

Did anyone point out that there's a Vegas group on Vimeo?

If you want very selective, paid for content sharing and collaborative feedback you could try nicespots.com. Price is on application.

For once I can honestly say Content Is King. If your content is great that's all that matters, who broadcasts it doesn't matter. Send people a link, embed it in your website. I cannot imagine anyone not watching something someone they knows wants them to watch simply because of it being on Youtube or Vimeo. In fact the one problem I have had, the client said it was too hard for people to watch his program on Vimeo, please put it on Youtube and quality be damned.

One last thought, you could also consider revver.com Not stellar quality but not so much trash. You do have to endure ads but if enough people watch your videos you get paid.

Bob.

do best of both worlds: have your own site with your video embedded to the host (IE vimmo). Then people don't actually know who hosts unless they double click & you don't need to pay for it.

but you can't do that for youtube. They seem to have added a bug to each embedded video. How :(

EDIT: most will do ads in one way or another. Heck, I wanted to watch a video on a commercial site (company, not TV ad) & they had a commercial before the video. I've started seeing google/yahoo ads poping up on commercial sites all over. Very ugly.

Bob's absolutely correct about YouTube being about "content" rather than quality. It's the place to go to put a daily or timely bit out to the public fast. It is used by politicians and idiots alike (mutual exclusion unintended).

Vimeo used to allow their members to post a link to the original non-flash file, and have that file accessible to non-members as well as members. That made it nice because you coud put an outside link to the video from your website without using your own bandwidth. Unfortunately they have stopped that practice forcing a viewer to join in order to view that file. That made it useless.

John

Thank you all very much for some quality responses.... Very Helpful...
For the record I do not deem my video too good for anything as I am clearly amature (if that) and have no Idea what I am doing to be honest. (you'll see what I mean when I finally post).....
I think every one knows what I mean about youtube....even the latest contest some else post here suggested that 99.9% of the videos were crap.
I think vimeo is a much better option (after further review) I also liked ExposureRoom...Seemed to be a good spot through not so big....

(sorry I didn't get you joke Bob:)

Thanks again everyone,

Ice

I think you're looking at this the wrong way.

Youtube is to internet video as what CBS is to broadcast TV. They play stuff, people watch. Some is crap, some is not. People don't stop visiting or watching embeded video on youtube because of crap there just like people don't stop watching CBS because of crap they run @ another time slot.

You won't impress anybody by using one service vs another, and if you do, they would be MORE impressed if you had your own host & your own media player, etc.

I paid the $60 for a Vimeo Pluss account and I think it's great and getting better, not worse. No longer do I have to wait for a video to render - Plus members go right to the front of the line...and so far I have not seen any delay at all.

Who cares if there is OPC (other people's content) on there? You're sending people to your links. You can create unlimited channels and customize the pages with your own banners etc. Right now there are not a ton of options but they say they're going to release new channel options that will allow you to customize a channel to look just like any other website - color backgrounds etc. You even pick the URL.

And if you're not happy with the flexibility of the Vimeo channel options you can embed your HD videos on your own website and strip away any hint that the video is hosted on vimeo. Granted, you get only 1000 plays for embedded HD videos before you have to fork over more cash so I save those videos for low volume sharing.

Sample Vimeo Channel: Big Band
Sample Embedded site: Cadet Ball

The quality of the HD videos seem pretty good to me.

I've found that the ONLY video service non-web people know is YouTube. I've suggested other sites such as Vimeo but get blank looks in reply. That's the only site they know so that's where they want their stuff. Meh...

I have been very pleased paying screencast.com a 9.95 subscription fee to store, link to and embed video. no recompression of your video. plus it makes a great ftp for large files. I use it to upload time coded .wmv's to clients for approval rather than deliver it on dvd. greatly speeding up the production process. and you can email links or embed on your website. they also have a limited free version. no google ads, very clean and proffessional looking player.
Thanks
Steven

What a good video is very subjective and I think that if you asked everyone on here to define it youget a million different answers.

I love Vimeo, in many cases I feel my content is poor compared to the truly professional offerings that I've found there. Contrary to Vimeo's quality being poor, I find a lot of it beyond me or perhaps even too high brow. Most of my stuff is private, and my friends don't really care what my stuff looks like in comparison to others; they are more concerned about how they look in the little movies I've made. I often find it difficult to find what I want on Vimeo, like Sony Vegas tutorials, for instance (not very many there), just to name one category not well covered.

On the other hand I can find just about anything I want on YouTube, no matter what the topic is. I must admit that I am sometimes entertained by low brow content. Viva Diversity!

The book Web Video: Making It Great, Getting it noticed has a large list of sites that you can share your video stuff on. There is a nitche for everything. I dare say, though, if you want to make money from video I would think that YouTube would give the greatest potential right now--it's a site that everyone knows something about; even if they do view it with distaste. BTW the afforementioned books is very good too.

I should also add that if youre a Plus member on Vimeo you can remove all their branding so if you embed it on another site it's clean. I'm also pretty jazzed about the forthcoming revamp of of Channels with Channels 2.0 (They posted a video previwing it, should be this week I think HQ update Skip to about 1 min)

Here's a link to the Vegas group for anyone on Vimeo who would like to share their stuff done in Vegas:

Sony Vegas Group on Vimeo

I personally love Vimeo, embedding from there looks great even though it's not HD (unless you have a Plus account and pay-per-view). My only real complaint is that they do not allow commercial video's, though there is a bit of a gray area in that if you made the video and are displaying it as an example of your work it may be allowed. Beyond that I'm very happy with the easy of use, upload and conversion times, and the quality. I should also add that my clients have seem to liked it better as well and to date I believe that all have chosen to embed from Vimeo even when I post it in HD on YouTube as well.

- Ray
Some of my stuff on Vimeo
www.undergroundplanet.com

Muttley,

I thought your vidoes looked very well done.

Thanks! =)

- Ray
Some of my stuff on Vimeo
www.undergroundplanet.com

Eventfilms,

Have you put anything to exposureroom.com yet? If so how did you do it? Because exposureroom won't take the mp4 file, my video is in. Thanks.