OT: A great show on PBS and online.

craftech wrote on 4/27/2007, 1:59 PM
Public Television aired a really good show this past Wednesday called Buying The War. It was presented by the only investigative journalist left in the United States. If you missed it, it will air tomorrow (Saturday) at 1:30 Eastern Time.

For those of you in Britain and Australia you really should stream it. If you watch it you will finally begin to understand what I have been talking about in some OT posts regarding the US news media.

Excellent job Bill. The one and only presentation of it's kind to air in 20 years.

And the Windows media and Quicktime encoding was SUPERB !

John

Comments

nolonemo wrote on 4/27/2007, 3:38 PM
In Los Angeles, it repeats on Sunday the 29th at 1 p.m. (KCET)
Coursedesign wrote on 4/27/2007, 4:21 PM
...and I noticed that in Orange County there seems to be an embargo on this program. Even on PBS. Guess the truth is too hard to bear for some...
farss wrote on 4/27/2007, 4:37 PM
Nothing directly to do with this but whilst in the USA I did watch as much PBS as possible. Great stuff, something everyone in the USA should get behind and be proud of.
To be frank they blow the BBC and our ABC out of the water and probably do it for way less money.

Bob.
MH_Stevens wrote on 4/27/2007, 4:50 PM
The trouble is Bob, the American people are letting the Government kill PBS just as they have truthful journalism. But just you wait, in a few years when Bush and Cheney are in Kuwait with their missing 14 billion and the American economy becomes on a par with middle order nations and the American people have to start paying the bill they will change their ways. Americans will probably always get it right in the end but they are too easily led by emotion to have any strategic long term view. I don't watch programs like the one discussed here here. I know exactly what it says, I've been saying it myself since before Bush stole the presidency, and too be honest I would find it too sad and upsetting.

The good news is that we are all individuals and we make our own world, family and wealth. I do not have to live in the world of Bush and co and I that's why I'm a maverick living in an eccentric economy in the back woods of American society; Sort of like being out of the Matrix I suppose.
craftech wrote on 4/27/2007, 7:16 PM
Nothing directly to do with this but whilst in the USA I did watch as much PBS as possible. Great stuff, something everyone in the USA should get behind and be proud of.
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It has EVERYTHING to do with this Bob.

Do yourself a favor and stream the entire hour and a half program. You will then have an insight into why Americans often appear to be so gullible and so sure of their misinformation.

An independent free press is something those of you in the free world take for granted.

John
craftech wrote on 4/27/2007, 7:21 PM
...and I noticed that in Orange County there seems to be an embargo on this program. Even on PBS. Guess the truth is too hard to bear for some...
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Fotunately we still have Net Neutrality so you can stream it.
Until those same media corporations convince all of you that it is bad for you and the type of government we have now allows those same media corps to own and regulate the infomation on the internet as well.
farss wrote on 4/27/2007, 8:47 PM
We've all got it wrong, this mess in iRack is all the fault of Steve Jobs.
See here:

Bob.
Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/27/2007, 9:07 PM
I think it's one of the big reasons I'm working as an indie VJ and working towards publishing my work online - News is changing - take a look at viewmagazine.tv and see what the outernet is becoming - this is the future of news broadcast and why I'm trying to learn Vegas for efficient editing of stories.
alltheseworlds wrote on 4/27/2007, 9:42 PM
With respect, that site is a dog's breakfast. What exactly is it meant to be be ?
JoeMess wrote on 4/27/2007, 11:38 PM
Sorry, although this particular show may be great and interesting, I can hardly agree that the US Government is killing PBS. It is bloody publicly funded! You have the Corporation for Public Broadcast. (Yes, my tax dollars in action.) making all of the shows, and the PBS stations choosing which ones to broadcast (those would also be funded by my tax dollars and my personal donations over many years). I listened to a great interview with a director that shot a documentary dealing with moderate muslims that have very poor views of their Jihad prone brothers, although the CPB paid for the shooting of the documentary, PBS stations are refusing to play it. The management of PBS find the commentary of moderate on the streets muslims not PC and refuse to run it because moderate muslims support the actions against the radical element of their religion. While I enjoy PBS programming greatly, I have to say that their editorial tends to be a little less than objective and just a hair left of the ghost of Abby Hoffman. None-the-less, I wouldn't mind seeing this documentary. I would, however, appreciate less liberal pig headedness on this forum. A conservative will rarely call you stupid and evil for disagreeing with him. We would appreciate the same consideration.

JoeMess
craftech wrote on 4/28/2007, 5:05 AM
While I enjoy PBS programming greatly, I have to say that their editorial tends to be a little less than objective and just a hair left of the ghost of Abby Hoffman.
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Oh really?
You must have missed The Case for War in Defense of Freedom last week hosted by neo-conservative Richard Perle who has been a part of the same neo-conservative think tank The Project for a New American Century that much of The Bush administration belongs to.

As far as the Jihad story goes, The Men and ideas behind Al Qaeda I watched it the week before. You must have missed that one too. As the only network (besides C-Span) with a balance of presentation it is easy to understand your confusion.

John
craftech wrote on 4/28/2007, 5:45 AM
...and I noticed that in Orange County there seems to be an embargo on this program. Even on PBS. Guess the truth is too hard to bear for some...
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Bjorn:

The show airs on Sunday, April 29 (tomorrow) at 1PM on KCET (Channel 28) in Los Angeles. Also on KCET-DT2 (Digital)
Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/28/2007, 7:09 AM
Well, this WAS a good thread...
Coursedesign wrote on 4/28/2007, 10:14 AM
Thanks John,

I am fortunate enough to be able to pick up three PBS stations OTA: KCET, KOCE, and KLCS, all three with frequent HD programming also.

I was just surprised to see that KOCE couldn't handle this, but in Orange County they have a perception to live up to, and I guess the station was worried about a negative viewer reaction to anything less than a perfect Pledge of Allegiance to the White House rather than to the Constitution or the ideals of the American people.

I'm a lifelong conservative who cannot find anything conservative in the policies of the current administration. What on earth made any Republicans follow this crowd?
We'll be paying for their mistakes for the next fifty years at least.
VOGuy wrote on 4/28/2007, 10:37 AM
Hi Bjorn.

Part of KOCE's agreement with PBS is that it won't air the same program shown on KCET within the same 30 day period.

The idea behind PBS is that it provides an alternative outlet for programming that is worthwhile, but not necessarily commercial. This is an important function of government in a free socienty - Not everything the public needs or desires is capable of making a profit for someone. This allows the free enterprise system to concentrate on goods and services which can make a profit. Society then relies on government to provide such things as roads and transportation, public safety, health and welfare, defense, etc. Such services are good for the free enterprise system, not bad for it.

-Travis
Coursedesign wrote on 4/28/2007, 11:50 AM
Drat, there goes my conspiracy theory! :O)

Interesting agreement, because they cover two very different communities.

Well put on the value of the common wealth.
Cliff Etzel wrote on 4/29/2007, 6:04 AM
alltheseworlds - his credentials far exceed many on these forums - I may not agree with the design of his websites layout, but the content is what is most important - which is the axiom of good journalism. His awards speak of how the profession sees what he is doing.

Did you watch any of the video clips on the site or are you basing your opinion purely on layout and design?