OT Am I posting too much?

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Grazie wrote on 8/25/2003, 11:52 PM
Hmmm . . .BB . . . you really do need sleep, .. . you are recovering from Bells . .. .
pjam wrote on 8/26/2003, 4:42 AM
No definitely not, we all need anything that makes us feel worthy, and valid, so if posting helps you as it certainly helps others it would be a sad loss to not have you. Speedy recovery.
beerandchips wrote on 8/26/2003, 8:10 AM
Billyboy, you are indeed very helpful 99% of the time and trust me, I do appreciate your help and advice. But, Bobojones hit the nail on the head.

Anyway. I don't think any less of you and your posts are appreciated.
Skevos_Mavros wrote on 8/26/2003, 8:35 AM
DELURKS BRIEFLY

Post as much as you want - all the posts I've seen from you have been at least constructive, and usually useful. I wish I had the time to contribute more to this forum to "give back" for the stuff I've learned here from people such as yourself.

LURKING MODE ON
vitalforce2 wrote on 8/26/2003, 1:52 PM
I grew up in the school system of a small town in Arkansas. So where I come from, your postings would be called "polite."
PAW wrote on 8/26/2003, 3:45 PM

Forum postings often hide the true character of an individual - which you are BilyBoy.

They can easily be taken the wrong way, the individual personality missed and go down a rat hole.

It happens with your posts sometimes - who cares the majority are a great help.

You demonstrate your individuality and character as many times as you like.

Post your heart out ;-)
bobojones wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:07 PM
My hopes for a kinder/gentler BB have been dashed. SSDD.


BB to poster:

"Nah, just waiting for somebody to ask something really dumb. Congradulations (sic), you win."


Souza wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:29 PM
hey billyboy. I didn't see anything in the forum rules about frequency of posts, so go ahead and post away. <:)
BillyBoy wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:38 PM
There's a difference between a DELIBERATELY smart ass question like 'how come there aren't more professionals using Vegas" and someone obviously new to video editing or Vegas in particular asking what may sound overly simplistic to those of us that have been around awhile.

In the first case I was responding to someone who obviously was looking to get a rise out of as many of us as he could purely for his own amusement. The word is TROLL.

In the second case someone trully not knowing, (a judgement call of course) I often bend over backwards to help, even if I've answered it already dozens of time or someone did just the day before.

A kinder/gentler BB is all in the eyes of the beholder. Some as they've said enjoy the little banter I add to some threads. A few like you, apparently don't which begs the question if not, then why are you reading my posts?

Do you need help in how to set up Ignore This User?

bobojones wrote on 8/26/2003, 11:31 PM
The majority of your posts are informative, my comments were directed toward those that are condescending and/or technically inaccurate.

You asked if you were "coming across like Atilla the Hun or a know-it-all smartass or something." My response was: at times, yes, your posts are hubristic.

> Do you need help in how to set up Ignore This User?

Do you need help setting up a spell checker?
BillyBoy wrote on 8/26/2003, 11:52 PM
Twice you made reference to technical errors without saying WHAT technically incorrect things I've said. Perhaps you're confusing my opinions with yours.

Lets see, so far you've made a grand total of 8 posts. I've made several thousand, most have hopefully helped somebody. For sure sometimes my witt creeps in. Just wondering maybe you see your faults reflected in my personality. I'm very aware I sometimes come on a little strong. Why I started this thread. I always find it fascinating when someone finds faults in others, then basically does the same thing he's complaining about.

For you see I find YOU condescending, humristic and judgemental. Curious considering you're the new kid that hasn't proven himself or helped anybody that I can tell. So here's you chance; start fielding the questions I usually repond to, I'll just sit back and watch and refer everyone to you.


bobojones wrote on 8/27/2003, 1:03 AM
> Twice you made reference to technical errors without saying WHAT technically incorrect things I've said. Perhaps you're confusing my opinions with yours.

My opinion of your technical competence is based on my experience; this includes a graduate degree in computer engineering from Purdue, four years as a Member of Technical Staff/Development Engineer in Hewlett-Packard's Information Networks division, and 11 years as a professor of computer and electrical engineering at the university level.

> I'll just sit back and watch and refer everyone to you.

Perhaps we can have the best of both worlds. I don't pretend to be a computer engineer, I am one and I'll be happy to respond to technical questions when my schedule permits. For your part, why not sit back and bite your tongue whenever you don't have something positive to say about a poster.

Bob
RichMacDonald wrote on 10/27/2003, 9:49 AM
>a little voice I hear inside my head says I may be posting too much...

Listen to your little voice.
JonnyMac wrote on 10/27/2003, 9:57 AM
> a little voice I hear inside my head says I may be posting too much...

>> Listen to your little voice.

And when you do post, stick to all the great stuff you know about Vegas and stop with the personal attacks. You've got so much to offer that it's too bad it often gets clouded in nonsense.
BillyBoy wrote on 10/27/2003, 11:41 AM
The funny thing is I DO listen to that little voice. It tells me there are some real grade A A -holes in this forum. They rarely if even contribute, they do like to lecture, scold and find fault with what others say. Scroll up a few posts for a prime example. Then review his posting record and you'll see its 90% attacks on me, otherwise he posts mostly nothing.

The question is should I have to put up with that kind of 4 year old crap?

That there are such uncouth characters that infest forums and newsgorups is nothing new. If you must judge me, then judge me on ALL I do here, not just the times when I defend myself from some unjustified attack. That's all I ask.
GaryKleiner wrote on 10/27/2003, 12:23 PM
BillyBoy,

The fact that you have posted this question is noteworthy in itself because of the introspection that generated it.

I think that many of your posts are valuable to this community. Many of your posts are not. Whenever there is dishormony on this forum, you always seem to be in the middle of it (exception is our friend Zippy).

You just seem to tick some people off at times (including myself , as you know), but since you like to be stubborn and argumentative, this presents no problem for you.

As far as monopolizing the forum with sheer number of posts, yes, I do think you are in danger as comming off as thinking of this as your forum. Perhaps more restraint would serve everyone here better.

I must also comment, that for the most part up until recently, your one-week hiatus did seem to create a kinder, gentler BillyBoy, and I was glad to see it.

On the one hand this is an ongoing community where the 'regulars' get used to the particular people's approach to things and can read posts in the context of what has been written over a period of weeks or months.

On the other hand, it is also a place where new users of Vegas or those considering becoming Vegas users check in and have no idea why there are negative undercurrents or why there is such a cloud of off-topic material, and it is these folks who I do have a concern about.

Mostly though, I would say the question is not how much you post, but the content of those posts.

Thanks for asking,
Gary
Catwell wrote on 10/27/2003, 12:37 PM
Searching the web for help on color correction brought me to your web site. That in turn brought me here. Your knowledge and expetise is very important to the quality of this forum. Please keep posting.

Sometimes your rants are way off track but I can ignore those knowing that most of your posts are adding to value of the forum.

BTW, my mother had Bell's and went on to live many productive years. I wish you good health and recovery.
DavidPJ wrote on 10/27/2003, 1:09 PM
Keep 'em coming BillyBoy, you're a wealth of information and an asset to the forum. Hope your eyesight continues to improve and you return to Vegas ediiting soon.
RichMacDonald wrote on 10/27/2003, 1:09 PM
>The funny thing is I DO listen to that little voice. It tells me there are some real grade A A -holes in this forum. They rarely if even contribute, they do like to lecture, scold and find fault with what others say....should I have to put up with that kind of 4 year old crap?

Then I guess its time to look in the mirror, since the voice isn't doing the trick. Why worry about what others are doing, worry about what *you* are doing. Seriously, if there was a poll to rank the people who like to "scold and find fault with what others say" or sometimes "act like 4 yr olds", where do you think you'd rank? Do you seriously think being a contributor excuses poor behavior? How does your little voice answer?
BillyBoy wrote on 10/27/2003, 2:24 PM
What's obvious is it is ALWAYS the same small handful that are critical of me. I find that very revealing. As new people to this forum discover quickly some people here have egos. A few, GIANT egos.Yes, me too. Not giant, but large. <wink> Nothing wrong with that unless it gets out of control. Some here can't control their egos and need to feed them. A certain poster that frequently flares up and runs back and forth from here to the cow patch is Mr. Ego thinking himself the world's greatest video editor. The funny thing is almost all his peers thinks he full of ....

I detect jealousy from some that think "I post too much" in that those same few perhaps feel they aren't getting the praise they think they deserve and that I seem to get. So believe it or not I skip a lot of posts or at least wait till someone else does answer before I jump into the thread. Kind of stupid I think to critize someone that just tries to help. And trying to help is all I'm doing. I'm not selling anything like one of my critics is and him thinking its ok to peddle his wares in this forum over and over even after several and expressed they think its wrong.

The only reason I post as much as I have the past several months is because of the Bell Palsy I can't do as much of the video editing as before, which was why I started this thread in August asking if I was posting too much. I post as much as I do because posting at least helps the time go by for me and you can only go for so many walks or watch so much TV.

This thread which I did start was for the purpose of asking seriously if I was posting too much. The overwhelming response I got mostly via email was no, you're not posting too much please continue. So except for a brief week after being called a A hole for using DUH in one post by the same group of critics I have continued to post.

As you can see I started the thread in August. It died long ago. Yet here we are months later and someone needed to bring it back. You got to wonder why someone would spend time searching for that old a thread only to start it up again considering it was dead for nearly 2 months.

Pretty obvious why some don't like me. I'm blunt. Sometimes painfully so. You'll never have to guess how I feel about a poster or a topic. Some people find that refreshing. Others can't handle the truth. That was a famous line Jack Nichelson said in a pretty good movie and how true it really is.
busterkeaton wrote on 10/27/2003, 2:29 PM
Others can't handle the truth. That was a famous line Jack Nichelson said in a pretty good movie and how true it really is.

I believe also in that same Jack Nicholson movie, he was the bad guy and he said that line to justify the covering up a hazing of a cadet. A hazing he had ordered, and that had turned into manslaughter.

BillyBoy wrote on 10/27/2003, 2:43 PM
Yep... "A few Good Men". He stared in with Tom Cruise. While Jack played the bad guy, the exact line near the end of the film was I think 'you can't handle the truth' . Sadly that is true in today's society.

For example the right wing crowd is now telling people to 'pray for Rush' ingoring the truth that Limbuagh was an admitted drug abuser that took thousands of prescription drugs illegally and before he came clean he would rip other people doing what he did on his radio show.

More truth is Bush got us in a war on a false pretense. The claim, now totally disproved was Iraq has WMD (not had) and they are a clear and present danger. Now the tune is Saddam was bad, and we needed to liberate Iraq, because they were under a dictator.
busterkeaton wrote on 10/27/2003, 3:39 PM
My point was he was using it justify bad behavior.
RichMacDonald wrote on 10/27/2003, 4:41 PM
>What's obvious is it is ALWAYS the same small handful that are critical of me.

That's one possibility. Another possibility is that EVERYONE is critical of you, but only a few bother to let you know. Or something in between. We'll never know, will we?

>Kind of stupid I think to critize someone that just tries to help.

Mirror mirror, although the evidence has been deleted, you might be able to remember http://www.mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=101575. You had a problem, I tried to help, you attacked me, I determined you had a bad temper and poor reading skills then, and I chose not to correspond anymore with you.

>As you can see I started the thread in August. It died long ago. Yet here we are months later and someone needed to bring it back. You got to wonder why someone would spend time searching for that old a thread only to start it up again considering it was dead for nearly 2 months.

I was being subtle when I deleted my posts in the above thread to express my displeasure with you. I was being subtle when I revived this thread. I just don't like to come right out and say "you're being an asshole", since its not going to improve anything and usually it just makes things worse. I guess I'm just a poor communicator.

>Pretty obvious why some don't like me. I'm blunt. Sometimes painfully so.

No. Blunt can be inoffensive, even when painfully received. You give yourself too much credit. You're just offensive. Hey, I guess I out-blunted you.

>You'll never have to guess how I feel about a poster or a topic.

Which usually weakens your point, IMHO.

>Some people find that refreshing. Others can't handle the truth.

I find it refreshing, but that is not a compliment; its simply handy when people show their true colors. And the idea that you "truly" feel the way you do is self-obvious and uninteresting.

(You weren't seriously trying to imply that your view of the truth is somehow the *real* truth, were you ?)

Signing off now, BillyBoy. I temporarily changed my policy today and got dirty. I won't be bothering you again. Should be no loss for you.