OT: Beginner Videographer Advice

plasmavideo wrote on 9/2/2007, 8:58 PM
We have a young friend of the family who shows great promise as an artist/videographer. I recently gave her a camcorder for her 12th birthday, as she loves to shoot video with my camcorders and she definitely shows interest and talent for composition and content when she shoots.

Can any of you recommend either a book or video tutorial for someone that young that will introduce the basics of shooting and editing on her level and perhaps expand beyond the basics? She shows the artistic talent, but she does not have any technical knowledge. We live several hours apart, so I cannot spend the time I would like to spend in getting her started.

I might add that in some ways she is quite advanced in technology areas for her age.

Thanks.

Tom

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MH_Stevens wrote on 9/2/2007, 9:19 PM
Get here a subscription to one of the basic DV magazines. Not only do they cover many basics they advertise and sell books on all aspects at all levels.

Get here using the basic editors included with Windows.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/2/2007, 10:42 PM
get her out shooting things. she can figure out the tech details as she goes: she's 12 & doesn't need to know how to do certain things for a job/client. :)

if she's using Vegas (if you have Vegas & are thinking of upgrading to 8, you can give her your old copy, 100% legit, just tell Sony) the help file is a gift from God... if you use it. :)

plus, as a student she gets all student discounts so you could get here Vegas 8 + DVDA for ~$270 when it comes out (student discount!).

but that's what I'd have her do. All she NEEDS to know how to do is hit the "record" button on the camera, capture & render. Maybe some simple editing. A help file/manual can walk you through all the tech processes on that. She can learn as she goes.
busterkeaton wrote on 9/2/2007, 11:30 PM
Have her watch the movies of the great directors.
Have her watch them a second time with the sound off.

Have her recreate a scene from one these movies. It could be something simple like two people having a conversation at a dinner table.

ushere wrote on 9/3/2007, 2:40 AM
my course notes:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/kay.wand/video_course/guerrilla%20doc%27s%20web%20version.pdf

leslie
Grazie wrote on 9/3/2007, 3:12 AM
Wow Leslie! That was truly very generous of you to share. Excellent outline on the creation of a Doco.

Your are a Star!

Grazie
apit34356 wrote on 9/3/2007, 4:22 AM
I must repeat Grazie's comments " Wow Leslie! That was truly very generous of you to share. Excellent outline on the creation of a Doco. Your are a Star!"

I would consider "hollywoods Works" video training stuff. Great information of camera techniques.... but not free.







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DJPadre wrote on 9/3/2007, 6:46 AM
"Have her watch the movies of the great directors.
Have her watch them a second time with the sound off.

Have her recreate a scene from one these movies. It could be something simple like two people having a conversation at a dinner table. "

You bugger!! LOL
I actually use this method for teaching hahahahaha
rjkrash wrote on 9/3/2007, 7:23 AM
Have her check out these instructional videos at Digital Juice's site. There are many topics covered.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 9/3/2007, 7:33 AM
Go to The Film Foundation web site (www.film-foundation.org) and download Making Movies: A Guide for Young Filmmakers. It is an excellent guide that is targeted at her age group.

As far as training videos on technique, there is not a lot out there. Everyone assumes that everyone knows the basics so no one makes training videos on it. The only one I've found is John Cooskey's "Advanced Broadcast Camera Techniques". I picked it up on eBay for $25. It's a 2 DVD set and it was worth every penny. His first advice was to get the camera away from your eye and go for low shots, angled shots, waste shots, opposite shots, etc. This is exactly the advice that beginners need so that all of their video isn't shot at shoulder level from one vantage point. He also covers lighting on a budget (with stuff you can buy at home depot) and in general, just gives sound advice for beginners.

~jr
TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/3/2007, 7:53 AM
Have her watch the movies of the great directors.

I'd say as long as it's enforced it's a teaching method, yes. I'd want to see movies made by her not someone else's camera work, scripting, sound methods, etc. but done by her. plus, how is she supposed to watch many movies by great directors... many aren't kid appropriate ("alien", one of my fav's, for example!).
Grazie wrote on 9/3/2007, 7:54 AM
http://www.victormilt.com/index.html . .and of course our very own Vic Milt!!![/link]

Yes his work has depth, but also that intangible assist to teaching - INSPIRATIONAL permission to go shoot and try it too!

Grazie



fwtep wrote on 9/3/2007, 8:46 AM
Maybe she should watch http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/630583685X/flickerscope-20Visions of Light[/link], a documentary about cinematography. That would be an eye-opener to the importance and art of the camera in movies.