OT: ...but Hopefully Helpful

JackHughs wrote on 7/7/2004, 9:54 AM
Often times members of this forum ask questions regarding computer systems or components. For those folks, I'd like to pass on a bit of useful information I learned the hard way.

I just had a new system built around a 3.2 GHZ P4. I ordered a Northwood core. I got a Prescott. My advice: Avoid Prescott cores as you would the plague.

I just learned that the nominal idle temperature for a Northwood processor is about 34 degrees C. The nominal idle temperature for Prescott cores is around 50 degrees C. As usage increases, temperatures increase proportionately until the processor starts to throttle back.

Two things: First, the temperature diferential between idle and the onset of throttling is lower in the Prescott. That is, the Prescott will begin to throttle back at lower relative usage levels than the Northwood. Second, the Prescott generates a lot more heat and therefore requires the CPU fan to operate at a much higher RPM than the Northwood. The cpu fan (stock Intel) on my new system sounds like a 747 on takeoff.

I may be able to mitigate the noise problem with an aftermarket fan but, from what I've read, the noise levels of these products are difficult to predict. So, far, there doesn't seem to be one particular aftermarket fan that really stands out from the rest. As it is, I may have to chuck the Prescott processor in favor of a new Northwood just to preserve what remains of my sanity.

As I said, I hope my potentially expensive lesson helps someone avoid a bit of unneeded grief.

Jan

Comments

JJKizak wrote on 7/7/2004, 10:35 AM
Plus from all of the evaluations I've read it doesn't do much to go to the new series.

JJK
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/7/2004, 1:25 PM
How come you just didn't send back the chip & tell them they sent you the wrong one? I've had to do stuff like that before... :(

You could always do liquid cooling. :)
busterkeaton wrote on 7/7/2004, 1:45 PM
I was wondering about that. Does anyone know what the top speed of the Northwoods will be? Have they already stopped producing it? I have 2.66 Northwood and have been thinking of upgrading when the prices for the high end drop.
RexA wrote on 7/7/2004, 2:05 PM
>I just had a new system built around a 3.2 GHZ P4. I ordered a Northwood core. I got a Prescott. My advice: Avoid Prescott cores as you would the plague.

Interesting. I don't know anything about this. How does one tell which one is in the machine?
winrockpost wrote on 7/7/2004, 3:00 PM
good info.

send it back and get what you ordered.
busterkeaton wrote on 7/7/2004, 4:21 PM
I believe the 3.2C is the Norhtwood and the 3.2E is the Prescott.
John_Cline wrote on 7/7/2004, 4:35 PM
Absolutely, the Northwood is the one to get. My 3.2 Northwood idles at 42c (109f) and ramps up to 60c (140f) during heavy rendering. This is using the stock Intel CPU cooler and fan. I have been looking into replacing the stock cooler with an after-market cooler, but haven't made up my mind about which one to get. I'm kind of leaning toward a water cooling system since this machine spends days at a time in the full-up render mode. Thermaltake has a new water cooloing system that appears to be quite effective and reasonably priced, although some of the new heat-pipe air coolers look interesting, too. Anyone have any thoughts on the subject?

Thermaltake BigWater system

John
JackHughs wrote on 7/10/2004, 1:42 PM
I'm sorry it took so long to reply but I just returned from a brief vacation from all things technical. And no, I was not in jail.

Got to" www.cpuid.com and download a program called cpuZ. This will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about what's going on inside your machine - including an exact identifier for your processor.

Jan