OT(?): Canopus ADVC-100 vs. ADVC-110

PumiceT wrote on 2/9/2005, 7:50 AM
110: Link
Powered by Firewire (6-pin only, not 4-pin)
Audio Only
Color Bar Reference Signal Generator
No External Power Supply Included (additional ~$40)

100: Link
Additional Video Input - 7-Pin SVideo (essentially useless?)
Power Supply Included (because it's needed - benefit because my laptop only has 4-pin, I assume, it's the small connector.)

Other factors:
White vs. Black (I'd prefer black)

Am I missing some major improvement on the 110? SECAM? I'll never have a use for SECAM.

The fact that it gets power from Firewire is kinda nice (less wires), but if my laptop's 4-pin connection means I'd have to buy the extra power supply, I'm spending $40 more.

Would the Audio Only feature come in handy?

As a non-professional, would I ever use color bars?

I have a feeling I'm biased towards the ADVC-100, but maybe I'm missing something that would sway me towards the 110.

Comments

John_Cline wrote on 2/9/2005, 7:57 AM
I think you've probably answered your own question, the ADVC-100 sounds like the way for you to go.

Also, when posting links, you must use the "http://" before the "www." otherwise the link is broken.

John
gordyboy wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:02 AM
I understood there isn't a choice as the ADVC-110 has replaced the discontinued ADVC-100 - of course, you may be able to find it still in shops or secondhand.

I agree that it is a rip off that you have to pay so much more for the 'official' power supply (or risk busting your warranty) - with P&P I think it cost me best part of £40 to buy what looks to be a £5 power supply.

Cheers

gb
PumiceT wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:04 AM
It was my quotes around the link that did it. Ooops.. Seems like non-standard HTML tagging to me, but it works now.

Yeah, I'm pretty much leaning towards the 100, but not sure if I'm missing some new feature that will benefit me. Maybe the Audio Only would be nice, since I just came to find out that my laptop only has one channel of audio input. Crazy, eh? And it's a Sony no less. I thought Sony was into audio a little? :grin:

Anyway, maybe I'd use the extra audio inputs to dump some 4-track audio into my computer... I just think I'd end up getting a separate multichannel input device before I try to use multiple audio devices to try to capture audio that needs to be synced together.

A few places still have the 100s in stock. They're ~$276 after shipping, whereas the 110 is ~$267 shipped. I think the $9 extra for a unit that comes with the power supply (making it universal for any Firewire connection), not to mention a nice black device (like most other peripherals these days) seems like the way to go (for me).
gordyboy wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:12 AM
I don't think the 110 would allow you to transfer 4 channels of audio - it's a normal stereo pair.

The non- firewire inputs are composite video, audio L and audio R (RCA phono) plus s-video.

gb
PumiceT wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:17 AM
Sorry I was a bit vague there... I would use 2 from the ADVC-110, and 2 from my M-Audio 2496, giving me 4 analog inputs. I'm assuming that would work, but I'll probably never know - I think I'm going with the ADVC-100.

Do many people use these units? Is it pretty much a "must-have" device for editing video? I don't think most of you guys do your previews strictly on your computer monitor, do you? I'm probably going to use my computer monitor most of the time for ease of viewing (don't like turning my head back and forth 100 times), and once in awhile dump the output to the Canopus to my 27" Sony or perhaps a 14" Sony Monitor / TV we have sitting around - it's an old computer / video / TV monitor. Think that would make a decent NTSC monitor?
John_Cline wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:37 AM
The analog audio on the ADVC-1XX is clocked by the video signal, the audio on the Audiophile 2496 is running off the internal clock of the 2496. I suspect the four channels of aduio would stay in sync for a short while, but would eventually drift.

John
PumiceT wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:44 AM
Yeah, like I said, I'd probably get another M-Audio device which would stay in sync... or.. N*Sync... wait no... not them. I mean synchronized.
jbrawn wrote on 2/9/2005, 9:05 AM
I'm just a hobbiest, but I have the ADVC-100 and use it every time I edit. It is also my primary capture device for analog video (8mm, VHS, etc.)

Best Regards,

John.
PumiceT wrote on 2/9/2005, 11:43 AM
SOLD.

I just bought the ADVC-100.

I can't see the logic in the 110, other than the audio-only feature, but... what's the point of that anyway? I guess it skips the analog realm and grabs just the audio from your DV Cam. It wouldn't take much more time (at all) to just capture both the audio and video, open it in Vegas, render to a WAV, then delete the original AVI. No? I don't know, I don't get it.
stepfour wrote on 2/9/2005, 12:35 PM
I use my ADVC-100 for external preview, capturing analog and sometimes for interfacing DV capture. Handy little box.
taliesin wrote on 2/9/2005, 1:49 PM
My info is the only difference between the 100 and 110 is the power supply. Don't know what the audio-only feature is supposed to be. The box deliveres a DV stream to the PC. Audio-only or not should be a capture-feature of the capture software.
The 100 also delivers a color bar. But the 100 is discontinued by Canopus.

Marco
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 2/9/2005, 2:46 PM
Don't suppose that we'd be fortunate enough for a 4 pin - 6 pin cable would power it? Doubt it but that would make it worth while to me.

Dave
Chienworks wrote on 2/9/2005, 2:57 PM
The four pins in a 4 pin connector carry only data. The reason that a 6 pin connector has the extra two pins is because these two pins carry power. Without the extra two pins, there can't be any power.

I suppose some enterprising person might come up with an adapter that splits a 6 pin firewire plug into a 4 pin plug for data and passes the other two wires to a USB plug to get power from there. The USB plug could even contain a passthrough to still allow another USB device to be connected. Could be a handy item, but i bet most tech support people would hate it.
John_Cline wrote on 2/9/2005, 2:58 PM
No, 4-pin connectors are data only, the extra two pins on a 6-pin connector provide power.