OT: carnival of venice & HDR-FX1E or HC3E

dreamlx wrote on 1/16/2007, 12:14 PM

I am going to carnival of Venice in February.I own FX1s which I normally use for shooting video and a HC3 which I mainly use for capturing tapes. I will not carry a tripod due to the fact that there are lots of people and so surely I wouldn't find any place to place my tripod. For hand held, I noticed that not only the image quality of the FX1 is superior but also image stabilization due to optical stabilization on FX1 versus electronic stabilization on HC3. Also for shooting hand held, generally you are more stable with a heavier camera then a lighter one. So from the shooting point of view, my decision would be FX1. However I wonder if there isn't to much risk of the FX1 to be stolen in this big crowd of people. So from this point of view, the HC3 could a wiser choice. The footage is only for me, if it would be for a customer I would choose the FX1. However if I take the HC3 I know that I possibly will be unsatisfied as I always think I could have shot better footage with the FX1. How would you proceed in this case ? Risk it to take the FX1 or take the HC3 ? Does anyone have any experiences in using the FX1 in big crowd people ?


Spot|DSE wrote on 1/16/2007, 12:20 PM
I'd take the HC3, were I you. It's a great little cam that has weak audio tools, given that you're limited to the built in mic, but the images are great!
Tattoo wrote on 1/16/2007, 1:03 PM
Have you been to Italy before? I'm currently living about a hour north of Venice (for the last 1.5 years). Just wondering if you had any questions that I could answer for you, although I've only been to Venice itself once so far.

Petty theft is certainly an issue here, but the thieves are very non-confrontational. I highly doubt that you'd get it stolen from your hands, but shooting in a crowd could still be factor for your camera choice. Obviously, I wouldn't leave any valuable item unattended, nor would I keep a wallet anywhere unsecure in a crowd, especially while your hands/attention are focused on your camera. Pickpockets are pretty big (and skilled) anywhere that's a big tourist attraction (Rome, Venice). I don't think winter is a big season for them, but a major event like Carnival might bring them out.

Knowing very little about the quality difference or what you intend to use the video for, I'd vote for the HC3. Much smaller footprint to bring/store/carry/use, and I think you'd enjoy the trip more by worrying less about your camera and being a little more discrete while filming (the FX1 will certainly catch folks attention more).

You may want to bring a tripod, too. Although I'd agree it won't be useful in a crowd (and other than a few piazzas (open squares), there isn't a whole lot of room in Venice!) during Carnival, you will likely want to use the opportunity to get some non-Carnival, non-crowded shots of Venice overall.

Oh, and for the love of God, sample as much red wine as you can while here! The average house wine here is generally pretty darn tasty! No need to pay a high price for some sweet nectar.

Spot|DSE wrote on 1/16/2007, 1:27 PM
It's a hike for you, but are you coming to the Broadcasting Conference in Bergamo/Milan next month? We'll be there, it would be fun to meet you in person.
apit34356 wrote on 1/16/2007, 1:40 PM
HC3 is the best choice, Spot summed it very well. You'll enjoy carnival of Venice a lot more not carrying the extra weight, plus sometimes the small size permits capturing some footage that you could not do easily with the FX1 in the crowds or restaurants or etc...
Grazie wrote on 1/16/2007, 1:42 PM
I think I've just turned a Greener Shade of Kermit . . . .
dreamlx wrote on 1/16/2007, 9:19 PM
Tattoo: I had even been to Venice before (long time ago, was the time of the VX1000). Actually I don't have any question, but should some question arise, it is good to know whom to ask.

All: Many thanks for replying. I think you have convinced me to take the HC3 with me.
Tattoo wrote on 1/17/2007, 2:45 AM

The conference looks promising and not too far away, but there's no way I can get those days off work, unfortunately. I'd love to meet you and the guys from VASST (I assume that's what you meant by "we"), but it'll have to wait for another time. Maybe I'll be back in the States the *next* time you do a shoot in Flagstaff, as Phoenix is my hometown and likely where we'll end up again. Thanks for the point-out on the conference.

dreamlx wrote on 2/15/2007, 12:34 PM
We are now back from Venice. I finally decided to take the HC3 with me. Will put some HC3 demo footage online during the next days. We really enjoyed the trip. The only thing (although normal for carnival time) is that there were definitely to many people. We decided to go back for a week in June with the FX1 as in June there should be lot less people than during carnival time. Also if anyone should wish to go once there, I can only recommend Hotel Titziano. Very nice little hotel situated in a region of Venice not being visited by so many tourists and about 30 walking minutes away from St Mark's Square.

Tattoo: If you have never been there and you live that near, I can only recommend you to go once there, you really won't regret it.
riredale wrote on 2/15/2007, 2:33 PM
There's a neat little sony adapter that gives you an external mic-in port. I mentioned it here.