There are only 98 postings on the Cinescore forum.
Many more have this product.
SO FYI. There are useful tutorials there to help take full advantage of Cinescore's capabilities.
Cinescore isn't exactly breaking sales records. I think there are only 98 posts because it really doesn't have many users (notice how few themes are released) They practically gave it away at 149 with Vegas upgrade so who knows if things will improve.
I think there are more users than post on these forums (Creative Cow just did a nice review of the product). I know more folks use Vegas than post here (I see some folks on other Vegas boards that I don't see here).
As for the themes, consider that there are four additional theme packs when the product was only introduced a few months ago. I would expect more theme packs to be introduced on a regular basis.
And of course there are other likely reasons why there are fewer posts:
1) Cinescore isn't a fraction as complex (for the user) as Vegas, thus there are fewer possible "how do we do this" topics to post
2) Running the Cinescore plugin to generate music probably only represents a fraction of the time an editor spends running Vegas (compared to Acid, which is by definition a lot more time consuming for music generation). Lots of people probably jumped on the promotion to get Cinescore at a great price but maybe haven't had time to actually use it a lot.
3) A forum starts off with the chicken or the egg problem: which comes first, the users or the posts? People come to a forum with lots of active posters and old posts to search through. If someone starts a new Vegas forum that nobody uses, would that be a ding against the product?
So I don't think we can conclude that the lack of posts means no sales have occurred or that there isn't a future for Cinescore. Vegas 1.0 probably didn't take off like a rocket in its first 6 months either.
I went through all of the tutorials a week ago and they were done very well and really provided insight as to what I can do with it. I plan to order this weekend after trying the demo for the past two weeks on a couple of projects.
But you'll get the plug in version if you have Vegas 7.0b.
The tutorials refer to the stand alone interface which is different, as does the manual.
One thing.
I can't for the life of me find out where the "Audio Transitions" have gone in the plug in version.
Used them all the time in the stand alone Cinescore.
There were under insert along with "Generate Music."
Have they been dumped in the plug in version?
I know I should be discussing this on Cinescore forum, but not many drop by it seems.
I've only used my Cinescore very little so far, but I remember a post somewhere about folders. Search all the forums for Cinescore and folders. Something tricky (as in non-obvious), if I remember correctly. You might also check the Cinescore Knowledge Base link at the top of this page.
I've gone through about half the tutorials so far. Well done!
And those of you thinking all your results sound like the samples on the Cinescore page, there is a lot of tweaking that you can do to come up with a fairly unique sound.
But you'll get the plug in version if you have Vegas 7.0b.
Well of course you get both versions when you buy Cinescore. The plugin version only kicks in if you have Vegas 7.0 or DVDA 4.
The fact that the manual refers to the standalone version is no problem. The plugin version is a subset of that standalone. What's the difference?
Well first off, your timeline is a Vegas timeline, not a Cinescore timeline. That means you don't have the video track shown in the tutorial. Not a problem. Vegas has all the video tracks you need. Also you don't have the transitions track shown in the tutorial. Again, not important. The transitions are simply a collection of short, useful wave files that you can put on any audio track. When you install the transitions from the DVD that comes with Cinescore, you can change the folder location to whatever you want. If you accept the default, it goes under the "Shared Plug-Ins" folder that Vegas uses.
Also when you launch the plugin you should hit the "options" button and change the folder where it stores the generated music to the folder you want it in for the project.
The point is, the "Audio Transitions" used to be easily accessible.
Click insert, click "Audio Transitions",---bingo.
Now it's explorer, C drive, Sony, Shared plugins, and finally,----"Audio Transitions. More clicks. Slower workflow.
And NO,---the current tutorials do not specifically refer to the newer plug in version of Cinescore.
BECAUSE THE INTERFACE IS DIFFERENT. As in not the same. Anyone not familiar with the stand alone version would be puzzled when viewing those tutorials.
These issues are evident IMHO.
Cinescore seems an exciting product and a terrific value. The tutorials are well done technically.
I was was disapointed to find that there is very little that addresses the creative results possible - only tutorials on which buttons do what.
This is a different enough product that in addition to the technical tutorials - it would be very nice to see more tutorials on the musical, creative application of the various tools. No tutorial can provide the "right" creative answer, but they certainly can illuminate the art of the possible more fully.
This is not exactly what your want but it is close. In Vegas 7 Explorer browse to your Audio Transitions folder, right click and add the folder to V7'Favorite folder. Whenever you wnat to go to Audio Transitions Open the Fovorites folder and click on the Audio Transitions shortcut.
Ed
PS Audio Transitions, Sound Effects... are not new to Vegas. I have used them for years located in folders of my choice. IMHO the Cinescore plug-in not providing a special "insert" for audio transitions is no suprise or workflow issue.
Good suggestion.
Thanks Ed.
And by the way, I'm not trashing Cinescore.
It's a great app when you need decent music quickly.
The library will grow with time.
I envisage a couple of guys around a computer doing their 21st centruy version of tin pan alley as I write this.