OT: Comcast limits users to 250GB/month

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MUTTLEY wrote on 8/30/2008, 12:03 PM

If you watched the vid or read the article in my post it seems obvious to me that this is an attempt to start placing some types of limits and restrictions on traffic/bandwidth as a foot in the door to the other agenda and legislation they would like passed that would advance their cause.

I'm would also speculate that 250 gigs was not a random number, it was a number they chose that might seem reasonable on the surface now in order to start implementing the caps. I remember back in the day when I upgraded my, I believe it was a 450mp hard drive to a 1 gig hard drive and everyone I knew who had been working on computers far longer at the time than I said "Man, your never gonna need all that".

Understand their motivation, watch the video from Net Neutrality, they make the case far clearer and concisely than I am capable of.

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Coursedesign wrote on 8/30/2008, 1:39 PM
Capitalism without anti-trust enforcement is no better than communism.

Internet service in the U.S. is provided by duopolies in most locations, and monopolies in quite a few.

Either way, we're seeing the effects of it. Just like in the Monopoly board game actually.

If we don't legislate network neutrality, we will quickly see new fees on top of what we are already paying. This is not my imagination, but what was stated publicly by AT&T's CEO (and quickly retracted when his statement was brought up in Congress, I suspect with his fingers crossed behind his back).


Steve Mann wrote on 8/30/2008, 7:10 PM
How so? You are still sending your data bits through your ISP to the CuteFTP server.
Chienworks wrote on 8/30/2008, 8:05 PM
Yeah, that puzzled me a bit too. However, the thing is that he probably doesn't have a server at home; he's hosting elsewhere. This means that he's saving bandwidth on his hosting account.

And, even if that's not the issue, he can upload to CuteFTP once for multiple downloads instead of having to send it to each recipient individually.
PeterWright wrote on 8/30/2008, 9:45 PM
I'm not sure exactly how the Upload works - yes, it must be using something from my ISP, but it's not uploading to my own site, so my quota is not affected.

The subsequent Download is from Cute, so that doesn't involve my server at all.

Yes, if I wanted multiple downloads I'd FTP to my own server, but this is rare - usually it's sending something to a client.
farss wrote on 8/30/2008, 10:48 PM
In Australia in general uploads (data from you) doesn't count in your quota anyway. Mostly that's because our upload speeds are slower than our download speeds.

Bob.
kentwolf wrote on 8/30/2008, 11:37 PM
>>...1 gig hard..."Man, your never gonna need all that"...

Oh, how I do remember those days; not really all that long ago either.

I remember in the 80's, for me to be "set for life," all I neded was:

1.) Wordperfect, I think v. 5
2.) And a 40 MB hard drive
3.) Zenith laptops were pretty good back then too.

...never got it though. Way over my budget at the time.
Coursedesign wrote on 8/31/2008, 10:41 AM
One of my Adobe online updates last year was 945 MB...

I suspect not too many dial-up users got this one.
kentwolf wrote on 8/31/2008, 11:14 AM
>>One of my Adobe online updates last year was 945 MB...

I have CS3 + Comcast and I don't think I got that one either.

What update was that?

I hear people were downloading Windows Vista OS betas and I hear the download was > 1gig.
Coursedesign wrote on 8/31/2008, 12:01 PM
I don't remember the exact update, but think it was during installation of CS3.

The Vista download was 3.5GB according to comments in DJ's current poll...
Chienworks wrote on 8/31/2008, 2:51 PM
I've been downloading Linux installation distributions for over a decade now, starting back when i had a paltry 28K modem. Some of those were nearly 3.5GB even back then and i never had a problem downloading them. Of course, now i can get them in an hour or so instead of several days.
Steve Mann wrote on 8/31/2008, 8:15 PM
"I'm not sure exactly how the Upload works - yes, it must be using something from my ISP, but it's not uploading to my own site, so my quota is not affected."

If it's going from your computer to anywhere on the Internet, it's going through your ISP, thus counting as part of your ISP bandwidth use.

You are confusing the traffic quota on your website (set by the hosting service) with the data to and from your ISP.