OT: DVD myth explained.

farss wrote on 9/19/2006, 6:45 PM
We all know that it's bad practice to fill a DVD to 100% as that's when you get problems, that last 5%.
But why is it so, after all we paid for a 4.7GB disk, we should be able to use all of it. The explaination is that the first part of the stamper (the thing used to press the DVD plastic) that wears out is the outer edge. Now the low rent manufacturers like to save a dollar and those stampers are pretty expensive so they just keep using them.
So the Catch 22 here is they can justify what they're doing because everyone knows not to use the last bit of the disk anyway!
What's no doubt even more confusing is that depending on when the stamper gets replaced some of the same manufactured disks will be fine to 100% but the next batch you buy might not and who'd think the problem was the disks.
Of course the solution is to only buy good quality (and expensive) media.

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riredale wrote on 9/19/2006, 10:16 PM
With Ritek and now Tayo Yuden media ($0.30 a disk) I've filled many a DVD out to the very limits and they've tested fine with Nero. One one project about 2 years ago I did a bit of a miscalculation on the bitrate and wound up with a VIDEO_TS file of 4,696,484,000 bytes, which is 99.8% of full. What the heck; I burned one and it tested fine. I wound up burning maybe 100 copies of that project, and not a single issue to date with them. But like you said, perhaps the junk brands will have problems.
farss wrote on 9/19/2006, 10:48 PM
Well the supplier who told me about this said they check each batch by filling a disk to 100% and verfiying it. The TY and Verbatims, never a problem. With the cheap no name stuff, oftenly you cannot fill the disk.
Just saw a sample of the new TY Aquaguard finish, WOW.
The similar glossy Verbatim is about 90% as good.
DJPadre wrote on 9/20/2006, 2:46 AM
ive got a pile of verbatims here.. those new spanky glossy plastic finsih ones... must say, tehy ARE really REALLY nice... havent had an issue with tehm.. then again i only burn data at 8x and video at 4x...
craftech wrote on 9/20/2006, 5:54 AM
Verbatims with which media ID??? TYG02? MCC 02RG20?? There are many. Which one?

John
rs170a wrote on 9/20/2006, 6:16 AM
I've been using three different types of Verbatims (silver & printable DVD-R) and haven't had any issues with them at all.
Silver (up to 16X):
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20 ]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 03RG20 ]

White Printable (up to 8X):
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 02RG20 ]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 02RG20 ]:

White Printable (up to 16X):
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20 ]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 03RG20 ]

Mike
craftech wrote on 9/20/2006, 6:44 AM
Verbatim also puts their name on products made by CMC Magnetics. Those are generally NOT reliable so as always brand names should not be used alone in recommendations. It should be and always has been brand names with a certain media ID code that should be recommended.

John