OT: Editing styles... am I just too old?

BrianStanding wrote on 9/8/2004, 8:07 AM
I recently saw Spider Man 2. I grew up reading Spidey in the comics, so I went in to the movie theater (a drive-in, actually) with some degree of skepticism, even though I liked Spider Man 1. This was a sequel, after all -- something Hollywood rarely does well. I found to my pleasant surprise that I enjoyed the film very much -- except when it came to the fight sequences between Spidey and Dr. Octopus.

The shortness of the cuts, the lack of continuity from cut to cut, the "jump" cuts, and the frequent "crossing the line" of action (so people seem to move from one side of the screen to the other) left me completely disoriented. I often literally couldn't tell what was happening. I've noticed this when watching several recent action sequences in Hollywood flicks.

I recognize that this disorientation is probably deliberate, as editors want to make the audience feel like they don't know where the next punch is coming from. However, lately, it seems like it's gotten so bad that it hurts the storytelling.

Is this just me? Am I just an old-fashioned dinosaur who's too set in his ways to appreciate this style of editing? Do younger viewers more readily accept and follow this kind of chaos? I recall my parents expressing great confusion when "Hill Street Blues" came out on television, saying they couldn't focus on so much simultaneous action at once. It seemed perfectly natural to me. I remember similar comments about MTV, too.

Anyone else feel a bit lost and long in the tooth?

Comments

Former user wrote on 9/8/2004, 8:18 AM
My feeling is, the least you are aware of the editing in a feature, the better the editing was done. Unfortunately, a lof of new films want to say "hey look at what I can do, I control the vertical, I control the horizontal" and, like you experienced, sometimes the story just gets lost.

I have not seen Spiderman 2 yet, but I have noticed this trend in "popular" films.

Dave T2
earthrisers wrote on 9/8/2004, 8:45 AM
Yep, I've been noticing -- and almost always disliking -- it, too.

Bad in lots of current movies, absolutely bad in most TV shows (not talking about "Reality" shows, but scripted ones--can't comment on the Reality shows because I don't watch 'em).
As a hobby, I sometimes count the number of seconds a given shot is given, before a jump-cut to another camera angle or a whole different scene. Very few seconds, on average.
The "advertising"-mindset leads the way -- commercials only have 30 seconds or 1 minute, and so jumpcut like crazy. That sensibility has seeped (or flooded) into all other kinds of programming, too. I guess it gets the "message" across, but only if the message is exceedingly shallow.
Old Ernie