OT: iTunes is Really Rubbish (rant}

FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 11/12/2010, 2:47 AM

iTunes should get the Darwin software awards. I like the iphone 4 but the itunes that comes with it is really really cr@p. I film some family video and there is no way to export it off the device. After trawling the net I find out that I need "another" app to do this. You can't just connect a USB to your PC and download your media, itunes can't do this either. Google "itunes is cr@p" and see I'm not the only one. I hear they also have video editing software, Ohhhh pleeeeeease.

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FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 11/12/2010, 9:00 PM

@Grazie, Sorry I missed your post. "You developed a way to go both ways." What is that secret?

iPad?!! Don't do it Grazie don't do it. You heard what John says, it has an apple logo on it. You walk where angels fear to tread.

Harold Brown wrote on 11/12/2010, 9:03 PM

When I plug my iPhone 4 in my Windows 7 system the iPhone appears as a drive and I copy my photos and video off the phone with no problems. Just like a USB drive. Same worked on my iPhone 3GS. Works on Vista as well.

Grazie wrote on 11/12/2010, 10:11 PM

Harold, yes.

However, I started from wanting to go the other way. I wanted to get my finished Vids onto my iP4. Starting from this point in my Apple<>PC experience had required me to delve into areas of IT I had been innocent of their very existence! And starting from this baseline, I've had to become aware of that which I'd been protected from (lol!). Apple mobile Services:Start<>Stop; stop itunes; unplug iPhone; stop<>restart mob serve; start iTunes and replug iPhone - PING! IT LVES IT LIVES!

And really DON'T get me started on bringing in photos! Ive got to make dummy folders and and and . . .

Grazie

I HAVE led a sheltered life.

Grazie

FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 11/12/2010, 10:37 PM

@Harold Brown. I am on Win7 and when I see the iPhone I don't see folders and I can't make one either. There must be a setting in iTunes or Win7 somewhere because the Internet is full of users with same problem? Unless your phone is jailbreaked.

Grazie wrote on 11/12/2010, 10:52 PM

@LA - still running XP 32 and PC sees iPhone and then my Photos/Vids.

Grazie

jabloomf1230 wrote on 11/13/2010, 5:00 PM

That's correct. On a non-jail breaked (broken?) iPhone, you only have access to a single "public" iPhone folder to store videos and pictures. The rest of the iPhone folder structure is hidden from Win 7.

I have Office^2 (one of the various iPhone apps that reads and writes MS Office files) on my iPhone 4 and you can move files back and forth to its folders pretty easily. You can either use iTunes or you can map the root Office^2 folder as a Windows drive letter and access it via port 8080. Here's how the mapping looks in Win 7, using the iPhone's network IP address:

DavWWWRoot (\\192.168.2.2@8080)

You can also create new folders from Windows on your iPhone using the Office^2 folder structure. The iPhone VLC Media Player app also has a similar option, but it unfortunately uses iTunes to sync (At least I can't figure out how to do it any other way).

And then there's always the Swiss Army Knife of file sharing, Drop Box.

Harold Brown wrote on 11/13/2010, 7:47 PM

To get stuff off your phone:
My iPhone displays on my PC as iPhone in the tree with a directory of "Internal Storage". I click on that and I then see DCIM. Double click again and I see 800AAAAA. Double click again and I see the pictures and video. I can move copy them to where ever I want. I typically use Lightroom 3 to capture my movies and pictures.

To get pictures (jpg) on my iPhone:
I created folders for 2009, 2010 and 2011 on my PC and from time to time I update them. I see them on my iPhone with the pictures in them. What I did was on my PC under Pictures I have a folder iPod Photo Cache. I created folders 2011, 2010 and 2009 in that directory. I drop pictures in them and when I sync up I can see the folders I created and the pictures on my iPhone.

You can sync the Photos from iTunes DEVICES and the Photos tab.

I have a laptop running XP that cannot read anything off my iPhone. It needs additional software to do it, but I have never paid any attention to it because I just plug the phone in to charge it.

UlfLaursen wrote on 11/13/2010, 9:06 PM

I only use iTunes to communicate with my iPhone because I have to. I have a separate harddrive I boot on with nothing on it but XP, iTunes and music, ringtones etc. and I only put it in when I have to updated anything on my phone.

/Ulf

FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 11/13/2010, 10:43 PM

@Harold: Can you shoot video or take pics on your iPhone then download to your PC?

Grazie wrote on 11/14/2010, 1:49 AM

(@LA: I can do this. My iPhone is recognised as soon as I plug it in - G)

Harold Brown wrote on 11/14/2010, 7:13 AM

@LightAds Yes like I described in my last post. When I plug my iPhone in it appears like a USB drive. I can copy the pics/vids from the iPhone into any directory on my PC. As others have mentioned you don't see anything else other than the pictures/video directory. I have Windows 7 Pro and my wife has Vista and this works on both our machines.

I will copy everything from time to time as a backup onto another drive, but typically as a work flow I extract only those pictures I want to edit using Lightroom 3 which sees the iPhone and displays the pictures.

So either case above works for me.