OT: Just found a GREAT VO guy locally yea! :)

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/6/2006, 10:33 PM
OK - so I went for an interview on a promo video I'm doing for a speaker, and this guy was GREAT!!! at least in my opinion he was.

Now I think that with a little bit of mic equipment he could start doing this on the side and make some money at it - Radiostations have offered him positiongs, but he want's to keep doing his current job and he may want to just add this on the side.

Would it basically just be something like voice123.com or something?

Dave

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VOGuy wrote on 3/7/2006, 9:33 AM
Hi Dave,

Every once-in-a-while I get a call from a client who has made a “discovery” of sorts – they’ve found someone with so much “raw-talent” that they’ve just got to do whatever is necessary to get this person on the right track to a career in showbiz. If their “discovery” is an actor or actress, they want me to help get an audience with my agent. If it’s someone with an “an unbelievable voice”, they offer to pay me to help prepare a voice-over demo for them.

Every single time this has happened (and it’s happened more times than I can remember) this is what happens: I end up meeting the person, and sometimes going as far as helping them prepare a voice-demo. At first, they’re excited – “Bob tells me that I can get several hundred dollars per hour, doing this kind of work!. And some people are making millions. Is that true?”

I then explain a bit of what I’ve learned about the “biz”. - Yes, the going rate is several-hundred dollars per hour – however, nobody puts in an eight hour day, five-days a week. In fact, most people can’t work for more than a couple of hours at a time. And you’re really lucky if you work more than a few days a week Performing is exhausting. If you’re a voice-talent, your voice will be shot after two hours of narration. If you’re an actor, you’re exhausted after a couple of hours – if you’re putting the proper amount of energy into your job.

Then there are the realities of the business – most of the time, you’re not working – you’re trying to get work. That means auditions, distributing your demo, or headshot, getting to know directors, etc.

“Doesn’t your agent get the work for you?”

“Unless you’re already making lots of money for them”, I reply, “they’re not even going to remember who your are most of the time. And if you’re doing well enough for them to remember you, that means they’ll get you auditions, not work directly. Unless, of course you’re such a big star, everybody already knows your work.”

“So, I guess, this would have to be a part time job, then.”

“Well, remember, that you’ll need to be available when the directors and producers need you. For auditions and work. That usually isn’t weekends or evenings. That’s why so many performers work as waiters and waitress while they’re getting started.”

“I just listened to the demo tape we produced… It doesn’t sound as good as some of the others I’ve heard by professional voice-people, why is that.”

“Well..”, I respond, “Remember, performing is a skill, a craft and an art. While having raw talent is good, there is still much a person needs to learn in order to be effective. Here’s a list of classes you might take – after a couple years, you’ll begin to sound like the people on those demos you heard.” In fact, if you work hard enough, you’ll probably be able to do this full time after about six years.”

“Six years… That’s ridiculous… I think I’ll continue with my plan to go into real estate, and maybe sometime do this on the side.”

I then wish them good luck, and never hear from them again.
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/7/2006, 9:50 AM
so what your saying is - just stuff him in my back pocket, and keep him all to my self? :)

He's got a good voice and he's done stage acting in the past - I'll be happy to get to use him for my own benefit - but he cold read this stuff and was very good, I think he'd sound a litte better on a Shotgun rather than on this lav that he was on.

I don't know that he had a huge desire to do this, and I never told him that he could make much money at it, just that he has a pretty good voice and that I think that he could do some VO work. H seemed moderately interested, and he might be able to get work in the local area with a home studio etc... I think I'm still gonna encourage him to look into it though. I'll certainly use him :)
VOGuy wrote on 3/7/2006, 8:50 PM
Perhaps... It's just that I run across an awful lot of people who are encouraged to persue a career in the performing end of showbiz, who wind up wasting a good part of their lives, and often getting hurt and discouraged.

I can usually tell who's going to "make it" (I define "making it" as having a rewarding career.) by the following:

If they say "Everybody says I have a good (insert voice, look, talent, etc.) and that I should try to get in to showbiz.." -Then they're going to end up going nowhere.

On the other hand, if they say something like "Everbody says I should NOT get into showbiz because (insert reason here), but it's something I just have to do - I know it's crazy...." Then, they'll probably have a successful rewarding career.

Most people are not prepared for the rejection, the kind of work required, and all the negative stuff which comes with the territory. A few get sudden success without much trying -- one of the worse things that can happen to a human being! -I've known three performers now, who got sudden success, who ended up trying to commit suicide - one who succeeded.

If your friend really wants a performing career - of course, he should be supported. But if he's doing it because "everybody says he should", then he's taking a bad path.
apit34356 wrote on 3/7/2006, 9:26 PM
Dave, If your VO guy is good at meeting people, then I have a suggestion for him. Just about every media market,(tv,radio) that is usually of 100k people, have one or two local media marketing firms. They buy tv and radio commercial time for their local clients and usually make or subcontract the commercials for their clients. Have your guy visit the local ad company,(make sure that he knows something about the ad company) and do some pr work. Local ad companies usually have a local talent pool that they use and are aiways looking for the next big talent, but do not always act interested with 1st time visitors. So plan many visits, talk with the staff,etc......