OT: Laptop Question for the Gurus

Kimberly wrote on 2/28/2012, 8:15 PM
Hello All:

I'm home for a couple of weeks and frantically shopping for a new laptop . . . very few of which have a FireWire port with which to capture HDV footage.

Will a computer that comes with a "9-in-1 Memory Card Reader" work as an expansion slot if I get a a mini-card with FireWire? And might this work for capture in terms of the computer's drivers, etc.? I kinda think this might work but I'm not savvy enough on hardware to know for sure.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Kimberly

Comments

JohnnyRoy wrote on 2/28/2012, 8:55 PM
I don't believe a "9-in-1 Memory Card Reader"will work as an expansion slot. That's just a USB port. You need to specifically get a laptop with a ExpressCard expansion slot.

Why don't you buy a Lenovo laptop? The W520 & T420 still come with firewire. I'm sure their other models do too.

~jr
Laurence wrote on 2/28/2012, 8:57 PM
Worse than that, more than half the laptops that do have firewire ports have ones with a chip set that will not capture HDV video! My HP wouldn't for instance. It would capture SD DV codec video and you could use it with firewire hard drives, but HDV video... no way, no how.

What you really need to do is to actually try to capture some video with it before you buy it. Trust me, most of them won't work.

As far as adding a firewire card, that doesn't always work either. The interrupts for the card slot are shared with a number of other things and the bus speed for the card slot isn't always the fastest.

Good luck.
Kimberly wrote on 2/28/2012, 9:16 PM
Dang!

I was considering the Sony Vaio 17" (comes with firewire) until I saw it in person. It's HUGE and it weighs a ton : ( . Even as we speak I am checking out the Lenovo models to see if any come with firewire.

Good advice too on trying a capture first, Laurence.

Regards,

Kimberly
ushere wrote on 2/28/2012, 10:14 PM
what's wrong with buying a pcmia firewire card?

i have two clients using (i think lenovo and asus) laptops with these cards with no problems....
Kimberly wrote on 2/28/2012, 10:34 PM
what's wrong with buying a pcmia firewire card?

If I cannot find a laptop with built-in firewire, the PCMCIA card is my second choice. However I'm having a hard time finding laptops that come with PCMCIA slot too. Or if they are included, I'm not recognizing it based on the product description.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/28/2012, 11:11 PM
There are NO USB to Firewire solutions. HP laptops still have Firewire ports.

Here's an idea - buy an old Sony laptop with Firewire ports or use a desktop for your capture.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/28/2012, 11:13 PM
"As far as adding a firewire card, that doesn't always work either. The interrupts for the card slot are shared with a number of other things and the bus speed for the card slot isn't always the fastest."

Actually, Laurence - there are only 16 physical interrupts on the processor and all but INT0 are shared with a lot of peripherals.
Byron K wrote on 2/29/2012, 1:24 PM
+1 Be careful about the PCMCIA card.

I've had personal experience where older cards are not compatible with the newer laptops. I have a few good older PCMCIA Network cards i use for sniffing networks to diagnose problems, a CF PCMCIA card and SmartMedia PCMCIA card that do not work w/ my new i5 DELL laptop.

Funny this thread should come up because I just sent an email to some of my techie friends 2 days ago if they had any old PII or PIII laptops laying around they want to get rid of so I can load some old MIDI controller software and network sniffing tools and use these old PCMCIA cards on.

The best advice is what Laurence suggested, if possible, test the device before purchase or be sure you can return it if it doesn't work.
johnmeyer wrote on 2/29/2012, 1:49 PM
HP ProBook 6450b

Just a quick Google search revealed several other companies that still produce laptop/notebooks that have internal 1394 ports.
Laurence wrote on 2/29/2012, 2:05 PM
Given my experience with the firewire on my HP not capturing HDV video, I would be leery of that one as well. There are just a handful of laptops that still have 1394 ports built in, and of those that do, many won't capture HDV. They will capture DV and run hard drives, but not HDV video. They will control the transport, you just won't see anything in the preview window or the capture. Believe me when I tell you that I learned of this the hard way, and when I researched it, I found out I was far from alone.
Kimberly wrote on 2/29/2012, 3:02 PM
The Lenovo W520 is now the frontrunner. It comes with firewire as well as an external screen plug-in for the multimedia projector that I use for showing the video. I almost forgot about that option. Thanks JR for the recommendation on Lenovo. I haven't carried a Thinkpad since my days in public accounting and that has been a while!

Regards,

Kimberly

JohnnyRoy wrote on 2/29/2012, 3:44 PM
You're welcome Kimberly. Some of my co-workers have the W520. It's a real workhorse which is what you would expect from a Thinkpad (even though IBM doesn't make them anymore)

~jr
Kimberly wrote on 2/29/2012, 7:57 PM
On that Lenovo W520, should I have an internal RAID set-up by the vendor? There is no additional charge for this, but I'm not sure how/if I would use it.

Also, is paying extra for the NVIDIA Quadro 2000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory worth the $$$ as it relates to video editing? The 2000M has 192 CUDA cores whereas the 1000M has 96 CUDA cores. I have no idea what this means relatives to performance in Vegas.

Also, is 8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz SODIMM Memory (4 DIMM) for memory good for a start? I presume I can order more and install it myself later on. Note that my wimpy old 32-bit Dell has just 4 GB of whatever RAM : o