OT: Music Score - Composition-Software- Midi

tadpole wrote on 10/28/2003, 2:27 AM
Now that i am off and running producing video segements (thanks vegas!!)
would like to brush up on the audio side.

Back in the day - i did a little music composition on my old mac.
It was way back - so can't even remember the name of the software..maybe "musicprose"???

Anyways - it was cool. I could compose a little piece by entering notes on a clef - then have it play it back to me.

Been searching for a few hours now - can't seem to find a piece of software that does this - TONS of stuff out there for sheet music printing, etc.... hoping to tap into the forum resource here & see if any1 knows of software program that does the following:

-Compose music by entering notes onto bar
-Be able to have multiple bars with different voices*
-*voices - like different intsturments (strings, trumpets, flutes ect)
- be able to export in .wav (or audio format that vegas recognizes)

Making a "hollywood" style film score - with soft strings, brass sections, timpani drums... oh how sweet!

Comments

RadicalRob wrote on 10/28/2003, 2:52 AM
One of the best programs out is Cakewalk, or Cubase. I've tried Cubase but I couldn't get used to the interface. Cakewalk or Sonar is pretty simple to use. Little tricky placing notes accurately, but overall very user friendly and lots of extras! Try it at www.cakewalk.com

Hope that helps!
TorS wrote on 10/28/2003, 3:06 AM
Why not try Acid instead? You work with samples and not midi instructions, but the structural thing - laying things out on a timeline is the same. Same as midi, same as Vegas.

I work with midi - on an app that came with my soundcard almost ten years ago. I also work in Finale - which plays midi too, but is a complex notation program really. I can import from the one to the other, and that's why I've not started on the Acid wave myself. I want to be able to create notation eventually. If you don't need that - look into Acid for your "composition" exercise.
Tor
jester700 wrote on 10/28/2003, 6:35 AM
For a traditional composer, ACID is not a familiar "composing space".

Most notation packages can do this - Finale, Sibelius, Noteworthy, and a host of others. A sequencer program (like Cakewalkis likely to give you more MIDI control, with perhaps less in the traditional score user interface department.
fosko wrote on 10/28/2003, 9:57 AM
And I would just say.. keep in mind these programs range in price and features. You may not have to get soemthing as robust as CUBASE....there are some $39 programs I see off the shelf at MicroCenter, CompUSA, ect, that sound like they may do what you need. Not trying to diswade you..just look out for over kill
fosko wrote on 10/28/2003, 9:57 AM
And I would just say.. keep in mind these programs range in price and features. You may not have to get soemthing as robust as CUBASE....there are some $39 programs I see off the shelf at MicroCenter, CompUSA, ect, that sound like they may do what you need. Not trying to diswade you..just look out for over kill
Caruso wrote on 10/28/2003, 5:43 PM
I've used Finale for many years. Aside from being able to enter notes on the staff, you can also use a midi instrument to enter the notes (far faster and intuitive for me).

I've used a demo of the Sebellius program. Works in a manner similar to Finale, and I found its page layout to be more flexible and easy to master than Finale.

In either program, you can playback what you've written. Version 2000 and later of Finale will automatically assign voices to your score so that playback will represent the instrument designated for that particular staff.

I can't remember what Sebellius sells for, but, Finale can be expensive if you don't have an education discount.

If you write a lot of music, and especially if you need to have it published, or if you want to use it with a group, one of these programs will be invaluable to you. Finale can extract instrument parts, etc.

I just ordered the latest upgrade (can't rember what it's called, either - Finale 2003 I think). It's supposed to have enhanced playback capability - for more realistic sounding playback - more faithfulness to stylistic and touch type stuff.

There is a "lite" version of Finale (can't remember what it's called) that will meet the needs of most non-power users. Do a search on Finale or Coda Music to find their website.

I didn't know that Cubase would notate music. Am I reading that correctly in a previous post?

Caruso
PeterWright wrote on 10/28/2003, 5:54 PM
I use Logic Audio - it has unlimited midi tracks, plus audio tracks and audio instruments e.g. soft samples. It's Notation is superb - as was it's early predecessor, Notator, on the good ole Atari ST.

It's not cheap though, and my current version, 5.5 is the last PC version - Apple bought it!!
tadpole wrote on 10/29/2003, 2:13 AM
as always, thanks for the tips guys :)