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jrazz wrote on 12/27/2007, 3:17 PM
I think the mood and camera movements are well done. The lighting and color grading looks good, but I could not understand the voice on the phone and so I missed the point. I know they were checking their clothes for things that went against dress code but I could not figure out why b/c I did not understand the voice.

I only watched it once. I will watch it again to see if I can pick up better what he is saying. I assume the students will only see it once as well yes?

Edit: I went back and listened again and the only portion I can't make out what he is saying is the word before dresscode when he says he wants to play a game.

j razz
kkolbo wrote on 12/27/2007, 5:15 PM
Thanks. We get too close to it and know the script. That can be improved.
musicvid10 wrote on 12/27/2007, 6:26 PM
Comments:

1) Yes, the echo wetness and delay are a little too deep to be understood even on my high-end computer sound system, and you need a real James-Earl-Jones baritone on the line;

2) The gaps in the dialog, esp near the beginning, are a little amateur. Some chop-edits might fix this, but;

3) The actors know each other way too well, even though they claim to be strangers. This is way too obvious in their concerted movements toward each other. A reshoot is in order, with more spontaneity and less rehearsal. Also, depending on the target audience, which I assume to be HS or MS, the actors are a bit too 18+. The student body learned to ignore the advice of seniors long ago.

4) Also, as a footnote, the chains are chintzy and way too ACE Hardware. Get some real police cuffs like real goths would wear to school.

That all being said, it is a good concept, and I would not hesitate to share it with some school IT/Media pros that I know, with your permission of course.
kkolbo wrote on 12/27/2007, 7:38 PM

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1) Yes, the echo wetness and delay are a little too deep to be understood even on my high-end computer sound system, and you need a real James-Earl-Jones baritone on the line;
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I cleaned up their audio a little and the intelligibility has improved. Would be nice to have a real V/O actor for the part.

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2) The gaps in the dialog, esp near the beginning, are a little amateur. Some chop-edits might fix this, but;
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Good point there. I will pass it on and see if they can do a better slice. I am not sure the source has it in it though without getting to many edits.

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3) The actors know each other way too well, even though they claim to be strangers. This is way too obvious in their concerted movements toward each other. A reshoot is in order, with more spontaneity and less rehearsal. Also, depending on the target audience, which I assume to be HS or MS, the actors are a bit too 18+. The student body learned to ignore the advice of seniors long ago.

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They will take this as a compliment. The scene was directed by a first time high school senior. The actors were a high school freshman, a junior, and a senior of which only one had ever been in front of a camera or on stage before. Since they were just hoping to get through the scene and be able to cut it together, they will be pleased that you could get down to those performance issues. This was a first video for the group. I will share your insight with them and we will talk about the performance. Nice catch and excellent comment.

You are welcome to share the video while it is posted. It is part of a larger project. The students (mostly first year video students at my high school) are taking segments of the code of conduct and doing commercial and movie parodies to review those segments. Each group is doing a segment. In the end it will be put together and shown as a review to the entire high school student body.

randy-stewart wrote on 12/28/2007, 6:26 AM
Keith,
One other thing that jumped out at me is, what is the significance of the teacher laying there? Kids not complying with the dress code killed her ;-)? Maybe I missed that in the dialog. Agree with the comments so far. The phone voice comes through very well on my system now. This is a good first effort. If they reshoot, recommend they get some closeups of the actors faces for cut-aways to speed up the pace. That would add to the suspense. They might even use a little more of the "24" hand held look too.
Randy
kkolbo wrote on 12/28/2007, 8:16 AM
Thanks,

The dead teacher is just an element from the original Saw movie. When they did their list of memorable items from the original scene, the dead body in the center of the room stood out. For the parody, they thought it was an important element.