OT: Ogg Theora demo

dreamlx wrote on 6/23/2009, 1:05 AM

There has been recently some discussion about using Ogg Theora for web videos. I am currently preparing a new website, and as I only would have needed Flash for videos and as I like playing with new technologies I thought to give Ogg Theora a try. Actually if you use a browser supporting the html video element like Firefox 3.5, the videos will be played native. Otherwise an open source java player named Cortado will be used. Please test the website as much as possible as I am interested in hearing if this combination gives any problems and what you think about the quality of Ogg Vorbis (the files are encoded from m2ts using ffmpeg2theora with a bit rate of 600kbit/s). If this combination gives too many problems, I will switch back to Flash.

The link: http://www.another-world-on-our-planet.org

The videos can be found under DVD and Our recommendations.

Thanks in advance


Jay Gladwell wrote on 6/23/2009, 2:51 AM
The only problem with "new technologies" and depending on specific broswers is that very few people who visit your site will see your videos. For the best results, Web sites are developed toward the "lowest common denominator." That way you get more "saturation."

I operate a couple of Web sites. My host provides a comprehensive set of "tools" that allows me to monitor the sites and who is visiting. One thing I can reference is the broswers used by visitors.

Like it or not, the fact is the vast majority of people use IE--56.9% of my visitors.

Then Foxfire is next with only 16%.

"Unknown" is 14%.

Safari 5.2%

Mozilla 2.4%

Opera 1.9%

Chrome 1.8%

Netscape 0.3%

Others 0.1%

Just something to think about.

rmack350 wrote on 6/23/2009, 7:35 AM
I'm using Firefox 3.0.11

Basically, I go to that link and see a web page but no media of any sort is playing. If something is supposed to play there's no sign of it. No message appears suggesting that I install a player or plugin.

Chances are about 100% that I wouldn't install a plugin or player just for this site unless I really, really, really, REALLY wanted to view the media on it. There's nothing on that one page that makes me want to do that.

The solutions are either to use an ubiquitous player that almost everyone has or to make the page so compelling that people download a player.

Rob Mack
rmack350 wrote on 6/23/2009, 7:43 AM
Okay, I went to the "Our Recommendations" link. The page loaded Cortado after a short Java preloader/distractor. No problems, seems to work just fine.

If there's a way to preload all the adverts then you might avoid the "Buffering" message when each one loads. Since it's all advertising, you need to do your best to eliminate the penalties of watching each one.

dreamlx wrote on 6/23/2009, 8:06 AM

In order to be viewable for anyone, I used Cortado as fallbock solution, so it should theoretically work on almost any browser. What I now like to find out, is if it also works on almost any browser in practice.
dreamlx wrote on 6/23/2009, 8:08 AM

Thanks for testing, I will see what I can do.
rmack350 wrote on 6/23/2009, 8:16 AM
It seems like it has all the fingers and toes and the rest of it is a matter of presentation. The media plays.

Edit: I just tested on IE 7.0 and the media plays in cortado there too.