I sold my Pinnacle to a fellow when I bought Vegas 4.0. I haven't talked to him since.

worth every non-penny.

Dave T2

Haha, was hoping you'd chime in Dave.
(Dave and I go all the way back to P-Studio 5 . . . .)

Pinnacle Studio 7 was my first NLE. I was literally saving the project after every single thing I did. It was unbelievably unstable.

That's a rip-off.

(and I misread the subject and just saw "Studio $0 this weekend"... and assumed it was Vegas Studio, I was going to get a few copies for friends. But oh well, maybe I'll get a free Pinnacle for some of my enemies.

I just read one of the two rebate coupons and Vegas Pro doesn't qualify for the $30 "competitive software" rebate. For Vegas users only "Vegas
Movie Studio" qualifies.

I had been editing professionally for several years on linear systems when I purchase Pinnacle Studio. I think it was the first version, with the MJPEG capture card (DC10). I was amazed that I could edit video at home on my computer. The software was very easy to use, and for the most part, pretty stable considering the slow CPU and low memory available at the time.

But each version got buggier and the clincher was the old "release a new version rather than fix the bugs in the current" philosophy. That just chased me away and I started using Vegas Movie Studio (before it was Vegas Movie Studio) and then moved to Vegas Pro. Haven't looked back to Pinnacle since. They really screwed up a good home consumer video program by not thinking about the consumer, but instead, the bottom line. They could be #1 in consumer video software if they had thought differently. Vegas would still run circles around them in the Prosumer to Professional.

Dave T2

> "I think it was the first version, with the MJPEG capture card (DC10). I was amazed that I could edit video at home on my computer. The software was very easy to use, and for the most part, pretty stable considering the slow CPU and low memory available at the time."

That was Pinnacle Studio DC10 Plus and I still have my DC10 card. It was one of the most stable editing systems I've owned and I created a lot of videos with it using the Hollywood FX plug-in.

Once they created Studio 7 it was all downhill from there. I bailed out at Studio 8 when I couldn't render a project that I had been working on for a week and Pinnacle support said they couldn't help and I'd just have to redo the whole thing. I said, yea... if I'm redoing it, it will be in another NLE and moved to Sonic Foundry Video Factory 2.0 and never looked back. From there I moved to Vegas Video 3 and the rest, as they say, is history.

Still it was amazing what we could accomplish on a 450Mhz CPU and 128MB of memory with that DC10 card and Windows 98.

~jr

I've got my DC10+ installed and still working with Studio 6 on a still-good Win98SE machine.

I keep this around because I have a bunch of old projects that I occasionally like to make a print from. Somehow, we were willing to put up with horrible sync, swapped fields, and blue screens in the hope that we could make our very own VHS movie to brag about. It was also the way many local businesses did their in-house commercials. You could always tell which ones by the field jitter. The unspoken secret of the DC10/30 was that they would also break Macro. ssshhhh!

One thing that I will always miss is Spice Rack. Truly some neat effects.

Yeah, well.... Anybody remember MGI Videowave?..... ugh, shiver .....

Studio7 was sheer delight after VW.

Grazie

emc2 from dynatech?

my first encounter with nle. and last till media 100, and from there on it's all been downhill*....

*in as much as i can't remember ever 'losing a project' in a linear suite - a tape perhaps....

JohhnyRoy, yeah you goit it. I started with Sonic Foundry version1, but thought it was too hard to use and stayed with Pinnacle. The MJPEG card was very good quality. Like I said, amazing for the time.

Dave T2

Before I got Nero I used Pinnacle to burn DVD's because Sony Vegas DVDA couldn't do this properly and still can't.

> "The unspoken secret of the DC10/30 was that they would also break Macro. ssshhhh!"

You noticed that too. lol. ;-)

> "One thing that I will always miss is Spice Rack. Truly some neat effects."

No need to miss anything. Just copy the spice files from Video SpiceRack L onto your Vegas PC and use them with the Sony Gradient Wipe transition and you're in business.

~jr

@jr,
I will try Gradient Wipe! I had a favorite method in Spice Rack that I loved, and I have been wanting to replicate in Vegas. My old tutorial page for it is still up (although I see the QT browser plugin no longer plays the sample).
http://shell.dim.com/~musicvid/106trans.html

musicvid, I love that transition. I'm always trying to find one that isn't so overwhelming. Gonna attempt to recreate that. Thanx for sharing.

I actually saw that effect used in a local entertainment feature on TV last night. First time I had thought about it in a long time.
When you have a method in Vegas, post it in a new thread so no one will miss it.

I started with Pinnacle Studio DC10 Plus and suffered the BOD during almost every edit. Upgraded to 7 and 8 before giving up and going the Vegas route. However, last year I bought a copy of Studio 14 after seeing my brother in law using it for HD work. It's very stable, has some nice features and produces good output.