OT: PluralEyes for SONY Vegas in Beta

Cliff Etzel wrote on 10/18/2009, 11:13 AM

I have no vested interest other than how it pertains to Vegas users ;)

According to Philip Bloom's blog, he has negotiated a discount for FC users for this utility. He also mentions that a version for Vegas Pro is in beta and can be requested from Singular Software's Website.

For those needing automatic synchronization without timecode - seems like a great deal.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
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Comments

Editguy43 wrote on 10/18/2009, 12:57 PM

I downloaded it and have tried it, I have yet to get it to work it tried to analyze the clips then would give me a cant find event error, It might be the clips I am working with.
It seems like great software and would be a great time saver, also watch the video it is very nice.
I am going to try to get some other multicam stuff to try again.

If someone else tries it and gets it to work please post it..

PaulB

The Kid wrote on 10/18/2009, 10:43 PM

I tried it yesterday on some clips I had from a project and it worked very well. I did double checks and triple checks and everything was lined up. I had a two camera shot placed them on the time line one above the other opened plural eyes it did its thing. I then went into multi cam and began to edit and everything came out as it should. For me this is really cool seems to work like they say it does.
Daryl

farss wrote on 10/18/2009, 11:59 PM

Was this using the beta in Vegas?

Bob.

The Kid wrote on 10/19/2009, 3:06 AM

Yea this was using the beta in Vegas it works just like a plug in

jrazz wrote on 10/26/2009, 6:03 PM

I just downloaded the trial and used it on a wedding I finished capturing. I placed all my footage on the timeline with each cam taking up a different track. I highlighted the video and audio I wanted it to sync up and under options on the plugin (Tools/Extensions/Pluraleyes) I checked the box that said it was in chronological order and then I told it to sync.

It built wav files it used for sync'ing and then matched up the footage perfectly on the timeline.

This is definitely something that will be added to my toolbox.

engr wrote on 10/27/2009, 12:01 AM

Woah I didnt know that you could line up the clips selectively. I took everything I had on two tracks and it lined them up perfectly. One thing I'm not sure is IF I have a 5D2 and XDCAM EX recording, would it solve the lag issue. The audio starts to drift after a while and there seems to be no scientific way to sync it. In FCP, you can slow the audio to 99.9% and the 5D2 audio would be fine with NTSC 29.97. I'm not sure what a PAL user can do.

Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/27/2009, 8:33 AM

Simply amazing!

Have been working on some MC(2 cameras) footage and tried the beta. One click and poof! All synced.

This has to be a 'gotta have' tool if you routinely do MC shoots. Wish it was around when I started the project.

Added it to the toolbar and in one click, it's done the job.

Thanks for the heads-up Cliff.

Tom

Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/27/2009, 8:49 AM

Just tried the same clips as before but added the reference audio track which came from SonicFire Pro.

So I had two camera clips with their own audio tracks on the timeline plus the SFP audio clip.

Synch was PERFECTly aligned to the separate audio track.

I am impressed to say the least!
Tom

megabit wrote on 10/27/2009, 9:34 AM

Just tried it on my previous live music project's 3X120 mins material(cam1 recording continuously, while cam2 and cam 3 only occasionally).

WORKS GREAT!

One OT question though: when Pluraleyes is rendering the audio, do you also see RAM usage going up continuously? Once rendering is done, and analysis begins, it's back to usual from as high as 7.92 GB... I'm asking, before my Vista x64 is suffering from a similar effect when smart-rendering MXF clips (maybe just coincidence, but the fact is Sony's support never confirmed it being a know problem)...

Editguy43 wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:05 AM

As I stated in my first post, I could not get it to sync my 2 camera timeline, I emailed them and within hours Bruce responded, he had me get the latest release and check some other things. I tried that and it still failed. But the good news is it was MY footage that was messed up not the plug-in. Man when I finally fixed my problem it woked like a charm and very fast to. Also the responce time from them on a problem is FANTASTIC..

I will be adding this to my Christmas List..( hey santa are you reading this forum). :-)

musicvid10 wrote on 11/9/2009, 8:49 AM

I have been using the 32-bit Beta on some pretty big projects, even redoing some previous 5.1 surround projects, with stunning results! Much better than aligning clips by hand.

To get a glimpse of my current workflow, look at my post in the PE forum.
http://www.singularsoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=67&p=234#p234

The 64-bit Vegas version is now in beta, but for now the author is recommending that you not have both versions installed at the same time.
http://www.singularsoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=95

Dan Sherman wrote on 11/9/2009, 10:18 AM

Elegant, simple and useful.

MarkHolmes wrote on 11/11/2009, 2:18 PM

Just downloaded the 64-bit beta and am using it in 64-bit Vegas 9.0c with some 5D MKII Quicktime files (which I will convert to mxf) and separate wav files from a Fostex flash recorder.

Works perfectly. I wish I had this years ago.

Coursedesign wrote on 11/11/2009, 3:01 PM

Do you think this product is worth $150 (or $120 with the discount code) for just syncing double sound?

jrazz wrote on 11/11/2009, 3:55 PM

I ran into an issue with it two nights ago.

I checked the box stating the events were in chronological order and told it to sync. After it finished it moved some events that were at the beginning of two of the three cams to the end of the events with a gap in between the main footage and them.

I'm not sure why it did this, but it did. I manually moved them back and went on my merry way.

j razz

MarkHolmes wrote on 11/11/2009, 4:23 PM

"Do you think this product is worth $150 (or $120 with the discount code) for just syncing double sound?"

Depends on how often you have to sync multiple cams and or separate sound. To me, it's absolutely worth it.

But remember, it's still in beta. For a beta, though, I'm finding it very stable and trouble free.

Coursedesign wrote on 11/11/2009, 5:32 PM

I've been shooting double sound since 1969, lining up by sight (using a clapper or just a handclap in the field).

If you have 10 scenes, don't you have to go through the "sequence" setup for each?

musicvid10 wrote on 11/11/2009, 6:36 PM

If you have 10 scenes, don't you have to go through the "sequence" setup for each?

Nope, dump 'em on the timeline, and it will sequence and align them with the click of a mouse (after "thinking" about them for a while). It's helpful to have a "reference" track -- I render to new track to create this -- the ref track can be designated in the next release.

Try to forget the last forty years -- I had to.
IOW, when used sensibly, it's an amazing piece of software.

http://www.singularsoftware.com/tutorials/vegas/basics.html

Coursedesign wrote on 11/11/2009, 7:05 PM

In that case it will be a real time saver.

Many thanks for the info, I've been too busy to test it.

musicvid10 wrote on 11/11/2009, 7:15 PM

Much more than a timesaver, IMO.
In thirty minutes, it did a better job on an already-finished 5.1 project than I was able to do in a week with 5 audio tracks and dozens of scene cuts.

Transparent, cinematic, perfect registration are the words that come to mind after chopping the portable (rear surround) track into manageable segments. I can't say enough about this beta software when placed in capable hands. And I've been doing this as long as you have.

""Do you think this product is worth $150 (or $120 with the discount code) for just syncing double sound?"
Put it this way -- if they don't give me a free copy for being their favorite cheerleader/betatester, I'm going to buy it the day the beta expires.