OT - Quadro FX 4500

Mindmatter wrote on 10/5/2011, 7:36 AM
Hi all,

I just got this card that was in a defunct mac which someone gave me for parts, and it's in full working order. My question is, although it's an older model, will it help on my preview speed with VP11?
I'm using it as I write, tested it on some heavy fullHD projects and so far the preview is as sloppy as ever...

Thanks !

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Jay Gladwell wrote on 10/5/2011, 8:12 AM

Does it use CUDA?


Mindmatter wrote on 10/5/2011, 8:35 AM
No apparently not, but as far as I understand, cuda is just relevant on rendering speed, not the preview. I just wondered if, having been at the high end a few years ago, its GPU ist fast enough for SVP11's new preview, which can use the GPU.

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Mindmatter wrote on 10/6/2011, 4:43 AM
does anyone know it that card is still kinda up do date ? Is it a good card? Is its power useful for editing at all?

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rs170a wrote on 10/6/2011, 5:02 AM
...will it help on my preview speed with VP11?]

Unfortunately no one can answer that question until Pro 11 is released.

Mike
Mindmatter wrote on 10/6/2011, 5:18 AM
Ok I guess you're right Mike, thanks anyway. I suppose it's still a better card then my cheapo Geforce GT 430...

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farss wrote on 10/6/2011, 5:42 AM
One of the attractions of this card would have been that it can take a daughter board for genlocked SDI output. If the daughter board came with this card you might have scored a bargain as the two boards cost serious dollars from memory.

Aside from that it is fairly old, something like 1/4 the power of the Quadro 4000 in every aspect. If one can believe the nVidia comparison wiki it has zero CUDA cores.

Bob.
Mindmatter wrote on 10/6/2011, 5:54 AM
Thanks Bob.
A term I keep having a somewhat hard time to understand in the context of a NLE is the "power" of a card or GPU. Apart from the preview speed, exactly what power does a card or its GPU provide when working on a NLE?
As far as CUDA goes, I understand it's only relevant for the rendering speed, or is it?

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farss wrote on 10/6/2011, 7:14 AM
"Apart from the preview speed, exactly what power does a card or its GPU provide when working on a NLE? "

It depends on the NLE.
With V10 my understanding is it is only used for the following:

1) If you have a Secondary Display Device running from the video card then the GPU will be used for basic tasks such as de-interlacing, scaling and color management.
2) For encoding H.264
3) Some of the OFX plugins also use it.

Precisely how much more V11 will bring is yet to be seen.

Even Adobe with their Mercury Playback Engine do seem to go to some lengths to hose down user expectations of how much benefit that can provide.

In other parts of our business very specific apps make a lot of use of the GPU e.g. for colour grading. These are dedicated stand alone applications that do one task. Scratch from Assimilate can get lots of use out of the high end nVidia cards because the calculations done on the GPU only need to be output to the monitor. I believe for the actual render they switch back to using the CPU.

The power of the GPU lies in it have 100s of parrallel processors (cores) and a fair slab of very fast RAM on the card. I believe one of the limitations is the amount of data bandwidth available to read data back from the video card.

The problem with working with video is quite different to what happens when you play a video game or work in CAD or a 3D application. Video involves a lot of data right through the pipeline from the disk to the CPU to the video display. The other tasks involve small amounts of data being sent to the video card as vector graphics which have to be rasterised, textures mapped, lighting, occlusion, many calculations required and they are very amenable to parallel processing.


Bob.
Mindmatter wrote on 10/6/2011, 9:28 AM
Thank you very much for taking the time to share your knowledge Bob, much appreciated!

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