OT: Rumored NEW SONY HDV-FX7

Tech Diver wrote on 9/1/2006, 11:04 AM

I noticed there are no XLR connections. That would rule it out for me since it would not interface directly with my audio equipment. That is one of the reasons why I bought the A1.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 9/1/2006, 11:20 AM

I have no clue yet as I am still digging around trying to find more info about the camera - information is sparse at the moment but I would think it would be remiss on SONY's part to NOT have XLR capability - but then again, SONY has been known to not provide needed features on their products...

jkrepner wrote on 9/1/2006, 11:29 AM

No doubt there will be something like this from Sony, I think people have said time and time again that Sony will start introducing CMOS-based cameras, but this picture is as bogus as the day is long. It looks like a really bad photoshop job to me. The "CMOS" badge on the side looks like it was resized, angled, and cropped to fit an old stock photo of a 2100.

apit34356 wrote on 9/1/2006, 11:32 AM

oceanvisions, well, your right about Sony having cameras waiting in line for the market. But designing new chips can be very expense, approaching 100m in some cases. So, its not uncommon for many different camera manuf.s to use common chips but add sometime unique. Sony has let many other camera manuf.s kick their put on audio while Sony was selling the CCDs or the tech to the other manuf.s. Its buying a Chev small car and discovering the engine is really made by foreign car manufacturer.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 9/1/2006, 12:12 PM

You could be right about the fake image, but this is floating around on several sights and the consensus is it will look similar if not like this image.

Personally, I have been a doubting thomas about HDV and I have caught some flak about my position, but now that the format is getting the bugs ironed out, I am softening in my position and am seriously looking now towards the format for acquiring u/w footage. What I want is something like the Canon H10 that allows manual focus and manual white balance. That's all I really require of a camera for shooting Hd - it needs to be small since I am breath hold diving while shooting - I have some footage I recently shot on my TRV950 and Light & Motion Bluefin housing while freediving at www.hdvunderwater.com/uploads/apneadivers.wmv - be gentle on the critique - all footage was shot while freediving. My external monitor's battery went dead and trying to shoot footage with your nose pressed to the eyepiece of the housing while freediving is a challenge to say the least.

bStro wrote on 9/1/2006, 12:44 PM

but this picture is as bogus as the day is long.

Well, yeah. ;-)

The article goes out of its way to point out that the very existence of the camera is rumored, so I think it stands to reason that they're not trying to pass that photo off as real. It's someone's mock-up based on the speculation that's been going around.

Rob

randy-stewart wrote on 9/1/2006, 12:46 PM

Wow! That's some beautiful footage. Nice work.
Randy

riredale wrote on 9/1/2006, 12:58 PM

You guys think this photo is fake? I dunno--if so, it looks like a really good fake to me.

I'll make a wager that this is the Real Deal.

Spot|DSE wrote on 9/1/2006, 1:30 PM

Bear in mind that if the camcorder is indeed real, the HDV or HDR-prefix, and the FX in the model number would immediately designate the camcorder as a consumer model. Consumer camcorders don't have XLR inputs by design.

winrockpost wrote on 9/1/2006, 1:38 PM

is it just me or is sony releasing cams at an unusually high rate ?Seems like every month or so. All seem good to me , wonder why so many variations ?

Spot|DSE wrote on 9/1/2006, 1:44 PM

Sony hasn't released any camcorders in the pro arena for nearly 2 years, and until the HC3, no new consumer-based cams for about 14 months.
Sony Electronics recently announced 2 new camcorders (UX1 and SR1), but prior to those two in a new format, only the HC3, which had been released early to replace the sold-better-than-anticipated HC1.

winrockpost wrote on 9/1/2006, 1:46 PM

figured it was just me : )

epirb wrote on 9/1/2006, 4:41 PM

>figured it was just me : ) <

ahh ha so you're the one releasing cameras at an unusualy high rate.

farss wrote on 9/1/2006, 6:54 PM

What Sony really needs to come up with is a HDV camera that'll take D5 shell tapes. They've released the VCR to handle the tapes, where is the damn camera.
This 63 minute limit on HDV is slowing down the uptake.

Bob.

apit34356 wrote on 9/1/2006, 7:18 PM

The good news is that if the camera is coming out soon, just follow DSE around. One could pose as a TSA inspector and "borrow" the camera for awhile, but just don't stress DSE out too long.

Serena wrote on 9/1/2006, 8:12 PM

>>This 63 minute limit on HDV is slowing down the uptake.

Of which applications are you thinking? On this basis the P2 is dead in the water. I hear people say they want longer tapes, but the only reason that occurs to me is that they're undisciplined shooters. Surely one can always select 30 seconds spot to change a tape, because you always know how much is left.

cliff_622 wrote on 9/1/2006, 8:41 PM

WOW....got a vx2100 myself,...this puppy looks just like it.

How will this camera compete with the new AVCHD codec? Isn't everybody claiming that if you go long GOP,...that is now the way to go? It's far more effecient than HD-MPEG2 right? (prolly requires a hell of allot of horsepower to decode while editing)

Wow,..still very exciting.

Yes,.. this camera BETTER have the same low light that the PD/VX has if they are aiming at the VX/PD crowd

farss wrote on 9/2/2006, 5:22 AM

Sure YOU know how much is left but they don't!

For single camera event shoots, weddings, corporate gabfests and sports you can easily go over 63 minutes with no break.
I did one where I had a 184 minute tape running in DVCAM, thought I was safe but I just made it. At around 175 minutes the speaker is asking if there's anymore questions and I'm frantically waving my arms around at the back of the room, pretty funny in hindsight.

Bob.

Serena wrote on 9/2/2006, 6:05 AM

Bob,
Yes, not denied and I don't put you in the "undisciplined" category! I would have been looking to change the tape at the end of the previous speaker. Guess the conferences I'm used to don't go for 175minutes with just one speaker -- must have been hell!

bStro wrote on 9/2/2006, 8:22 AM

After 175 minutes, I'd be "frantically waving my arms," too, just being part of the audience.

Rob

Tim L wrote on 9/2/2006, 9:50 AM

If the "FX7" photo is fake, its very well done. Its not based on a simple touch-up of an FX1 or a VX-2100. Look at all the differences...

Photo here of FX1 and VX-2100 (These might be Euro models...)

The viewfinder is on the handle like the FX1, but even the handle itself is slightly restyled. The mic is different. The body is much more rounded or sculpted than FX1 or VX-2100 (look where the handle attaches at the back of the camcorder).

Also, the right side seems to have a bit of a bump-out housing or grip of some kind.

I'm sure there are very talented photoshop users out there, but at the very least this is not a simple mockup of copying "3CMOS" onto an existing camera body -- at least not an FX1, 2100, Z1, A1, etc.

Tim L

Rosebud wrote on 9/7/2006, 3:43 AM

Sony HDR FX7 (Sony Japan)

Read Full Coverage of Sony HDR-FX7 on CamcorderInfo.com

p@mast3rs wrote on 9/7/2006, 3:50 AM

Guess it wasnt a fake or a rumor. :)

Tim L wrote on 9/7/2006, 7:00 AM

Info on camcorderinfo.com:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-Announces-Smaller-Less-Expensive-HDR-FX7-with-3-CMOS-Chips.htm

OOPS: Didn't see that this is now posted above... Sorry...

Tim L