OT - Taiyo Yuden Inkjet DVD question

fwtep wrote on 8/3/2006, 9:22 AM
I know a lot of folks here are using Taiyo, so it's the easiest place to ask: What is the printable surface like? Right now I have the Verbatim Datalife Plus discs and while I haven't had a single problem with them, I don't like the texture of the printable surface-- it's a bit rough and gritty. A while back I had some Fuji discs where the surface was nice and smooth, so I'm wondering (hoping) that the Taiyo's are like that. (I have some Fuji disks right now that are smooth, but they're not hub-printable, and I want full surface printing.)

Also, I'm looking at buying from cdrdvdrmedia.com which has 100 16x Taiyo's for $50 with free ground shipping ($40 for 8x). Is that a good price or is there a better place?

Thanks!
Fred

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johnmeyer wrote on 8/3/2006, 9:28 AM
I just bought another 100 from Meritline (I go through about 50 a month), for less than what you are quoting.

I have the Verbatim printables (white surface) and my Taiyo is also printable, although with the silver surface. The Taiyo surface is definitely smoother, but I'm afraid that I am not giving you an apple-to-apples comparison since one is white and the other is silver. Both have given me very good burns that test well using Nero DVD Speed.
Coursedesign wrote on 8/3/2006, 9:34 AM
The Taiyo white inkjet printables are very smooth, and I just bought their silver printables (will test asap).

The 100-pak for $50 is for their Value Line, not the regular/premium version.

I don't mind paying 50% more for "the good stuff" as I'm more concerned about my customers having problems than saving 12.5 cents per disc.

Never made a coaster or had a customer complaint with these, wish I could say that about Ritek's discs.

I buy my Taiyo Yuden discs at Supermediastore nowadays, they are good to deal with and have a great selection.

Linkyo are perhaps the worst discs on the market, I could have decorated a whole wall with the ones that failed in multiple modern burners.

johnmeyer wrote on 8/3/2006, 9:51 AM
The Taiyos I just bought from Meritline were the premium versions. Definitely do NOT get their "value line."
fwtep wrote on 8/3/2006, 2:23 PM
Thanks guys!

The place I was going to order from has the premium ones on sale for $3 or so less than supermediastore.
fldave wrote on 8/3/2006, 4:53 PM
I've used both Supermedia Store and Meritline, recently more Meritline. Both delivered as intended/expected.
DGrob wrote on 8/3/2006, 5:18 PM
I'm not seeing a DVD+R thermal printable. Am I missing something? Darryl
ECB wrote on 8/3/2006, 6:17 PM
I looked through the Taiyo Yuden DVDs at Meritline and Supermediastore. Am I correct to assume the only DVDs that are premium grade are only those explicitly called premium? There are a many Taiyo with no grade specified.

Ed
craftech wrote on 8/3/2006, 7:26 PM
Don't get the 16X media (TYG03). Get the 8X media (TYG02). It is much more reliable.

John
johnmeyer wrote on 8/3/2006, 8:36 PM
Don't get the 16X media (TYG03). Get the 8X media (TYG02). It is much more reliable.

I second that.
mark-woollard wrote on 8/4/2006, 5:02 AM
I got 200 TY white surface 8x -Rs this week not knowing there was a "value line" and "premium line". The packaging has a "value line" label. DVD Info reports them as TY02.

What problems have you had with the value line? I'm thinking of returning them.

Thanks
Mark
Tattoo wrote on 8/6/2006, 9:15 AM
Johnmeyer-

How did you know you were ordering the premium Taiyos from Meritline? I can't find any differentiation on their website. This would help me greatly, as they will apparently ship to my APO address, which the other site (supermedia...) will not.

Thanks,
Brian
ScottW wrote on 8/6/2006, 9:31 AM
Pathlight, the only problems I've had with valueline, and I'm not sure it's a problem exclusively with the valueline media as yet, was when burning at low speeds.

Disks burned by my VHS to DVD recorders show a very high error rate, and generally get a quality rating of 40% from Nero DVD test. If I copy the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD and then reburn using the same media with CopyToDVD using a different DVD burner at 8X, the quality rating is 93%.

Clearly there's a lot of different variables here, the valueline media being only one of them. I'll know more in a few days if the media is part of the problem with low burn speeds when my new order arrives.

The one thing that leads me to suspect the valueline as a factor is that returns from my VHS to DVD transfer machines historically have been very low, but I've recently been seeing a higher rate of returns.

--Scott
johnmeyer wrote on 8/6/2006, 2:12 PM
How did you know you were ordering the premium Taiyos from Meritline? I can't find any differentiation on their website. This would help me greatly, as they will apparently ship to my APO address, which the other site (supermedia...) will not.

Go to the Taiyo-Yuden page at Meritline:

Taiyo Yuden DVD-R at Meritline

Then, search for "valueline". You'll find three listings on that page for valueline. My assumption (perhaps incorrect) is that those not listed as valueline are premium.
Steve Mann wrote on 8/6/2006, 6:18 PM
Thanks for the tip, John. I just ordered a spindle to try out.

I had been using the GQ disks from Frys for years and I only had two returned as unplayable. (Three if you cound the customer who only had a CD player). But that's an inconvenient source.

Since so many people praised Riteks, I bought a couple of spindles and in my first production that was shipped, a full 10% came back as unplayable. Not at all acceptable.

Lets hope the Taiyo are better.

Steve M.
ECB wrote on 8/15/2006, 4:26 AM
This is probably obvious so forgive me. New buyers of shrink or tape wrapped DVDs make sure you have empty cake boxes. The packages are intended to be slipped over the spindle and unwrapped. Also, don't be surprised to see some small cosmetic defects around the outside perimeter of the DVD which I attribute to traveling across the country.

Ed