OT: The Difference of 24fps

David Jimerson wrote on 1/12/2006, 8:35 AM
For those of you who doubt 24 fps makes much difference at all, and a cinematic or "film" look is only about lighting, composition, color grading, etc . . .

Watch tonight's live episode of "Will & Grace." If they do it the same as they did with their live episode earlier this year -- and there's no reason to think they won't -- you'll see a show where the only thing that's changed about how it's shot is the difference in frame rate -- 24p normally; 60p tonight.

If the framerate doesn't matter, there shouldn't be any difference in its feel, right?

Watch tonight and see if you still think that.

Comments

Jay Gladwell wrote on 1/12/2006, 9:23 AM

David, I agree with you, but you have to take into consideration the medium, too. Isn't that show normally shot on film?


boomhower wrote on 1/12/2006, 9:59 AM
This is one of those threads that will probably bring out the sharp sticks so I'm going to make a comment before that happens (lol).

I agree with you mostly but my observations (for what they are worth) have been many folks thinking they can buy a 24p camera (DXVX100a for example) and walk around shooting video that looks like film simply because they now have a 24p camera (or they have a program to convert it to 24p). The "arguments" I've seen have usually centered around that fact. Like any other camera, you can have a great box of glass and shoot crappy video if you can't compose the shot, light it correctly etc...

All of those things (DOF included) along with the 24p make the film "look" with a video format. 24p makes a difference but I don't think it can get you there by itself. And, as Jay has mentioned, film is film and video is not.

Cheers!

Keith
David Jimerson wrote on 1/12/2006, 11:49 AM
I'm with you, Keith; shooting with bad lighting and bad comps on film will make film look like crap, too.

I'm just saying that with all the good lighting, comps, etc, no one is going to mistake what you'll see tonight for film.

It's my understanding that W&G is normally shot in HD, 24p. It looks like it is. But if it's film, well, at least there's a question. Tonight, you won't have one.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 1/12/2006, 11:52 AM

David, I don't know for a fact that it's shot on film. I was just asking. I know some are (I've seen productions shots with three Panavision cameras on the floor), I'm just not certain which ones are. Maybe that's a thing of the recent past.