OT: Vista.... JAYDEEEE, Maybe you're right!

blink3times wrote on 2/15/2007, 5:07 AM
I'm reeeeeally ticked!!

I'm doing the best I can at giving Vista a chance and ignoring all the vista bashing. But this morning I tried to change the Vista start up sound. I make my own sounds and I usually use a line from the song HELLO HOR-RAY from Alice Cooper as my start up sound. Well, come to find out...

YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE START UP SOUND ANYMORE!!!

You can change the other ones and you can turn the start up sound on/off, but they have taken away the ability change it. It's such a small and simple choice, it wasn't bothering anyone. It was there for the taking or not... why the heck take it away??? Now I have to climb further onto the Bill Gates dictatorship and put up with that STUPID start up sound.

I hope your hair falls out Bill!!!

Comments

Chienworks wrote on 2/15/2007, 5:35 AM
I'm sure it's not a sinister thing, nor something lightly overlooked. I'm sure it's a very deliberate brand-recognition issue. Microsoft wants everyone around you to know you're using Windows when you start your computer. How would others know what you're using if they didn't hear the Microsoft sound?

A lot of OEM distributors pay dearly to be able to put their own logos on items. This is because the original manufacturers perceive value in brand recognition, and rightly so. All the manufacturers want everyone to know who made what, and that startup sound is a big part of it.
Bill Ravens wrote on 2/15/2007, 5:49 AM
hehehehe
rustier wrote on 2/15/2007, 6:10 AM
how is the start up sound a big part of it Kelly? As long as windows has been operating - at least as far back as I can remember - you could use any sound that you wanted. How long is that 20 years? Close to it. Now all of the sudden it's a recognition thing? I'm not buying that. Bill Gates is behaving like a cheap pair of shorts that creep up into places it shouldn't. And why is it that just because I use "windows" I am am forced to become a walking advertisement for Bill? He has my money - isn't that enough? For crying out loud what general brand computer besides MAC uses anything but windows? I haven't seen any computer on the shelf loaded with Linux . And what's to stop ole Billy boy from deciding that every 60 minutes a splash screen should pop up and say - "thanks for using microsoft"? How about parading a permanent banner across the top of your screen? In fact, I think maybe he should require all manufactures to have a neon sign that lights up and flashes next to the sticker he forces them to place on the computer - just in case some person hasn't figured out that microsoft rules. Bill Gates makes Donald Trump look shy and modest.
ScottW wrote on 2/15/2007, 6:23 AM
"And what's to stop ole Billy boy from deciding that every 60 minutes a splash screen should pop up and say - "thanks for using microsoft"? How about parading a permanent banner across the top of your screen?"

Now you've gone and done it. Leaking futures information about the next release, Alta Vista. Shame on you. ;-)
bStro wrote on 2/15/2007, 6:42 AM
Here's the scoop from Steve Ball from Microsoft. Take it or leave it.

Personally, I think it was more likely a stipulation made by Robert Fripp. I've heard he's kind of a prick.

Rob
Jay Gladwell wrote on 2/15/2007, 6:48 AM

LOL...

Bill, you're wicked!


blink3times wrote on 2/15/2007, 8:03 AM
"Here's the scoop from Steve Ball from Microsoft. Take it or leave it."
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A** HOLES!!!!
TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/15/2007, 8:09 AM
so MS put the sound in because they feel people are to stupid to a) come back to their computer when they turn it on & b) are to stupid to un-mute audio they already muted?

Don't know about you guys, but if I make breakfast while Windows is booting I don't come a'running once it's started. I finish my breakfast. :/

Heck, I haven't had a startup sound in years. Didn't serve a purpose anyway. I'm off eating! :)
JJKizak wrote on 2/15/2007, 8:10 AM
I did see the word "spiritual" in that dialog.

JJK
blink3times wrote on 2/15/2007, 8:38 AM
So here's the hack.... SUCK ON THIS GATES!!!

http://vistahelp.blogspot.com/search/label/HowTo%20Change%20Startup%20Sound
ibliss wrote on 2/15/2007, 3:22 PM
As long as you can turn off system sounds, like everyone should, then no problem.

Not that I intend to go the way of Vista anytime soon.
MH_Stevens wrote on 2/15/2007, 5:04 PM
No point in Vista till you have a 64bit processor and 64bit Vegas and as there is not even a 64bit Office2007 no way should you buy Vista. Just wait till you get OEM version with your next machine.
rmack350 wrote on 2/15/2007, 9:51 PM
One possibility:

http://vistahelp.blogspot.com/search/label/HowTo%20Change%20Startup%20Sound

Otherwise, is there still a check box to mute the sound?

Rob Mack
rmack350 wrote on 2/15/2007, 9:54 PM
Ah. You found that. Now it's time to figure out how to make a windoewsPE disk for Vista.

Rob Mack
rmack350 wrote on 2/15/2007, 9:55 PM
So you're saying there's no point in buying the 32-bit Vista. Right?

Rob Mack
blink3times wrote on 2/15/2007, 10:07 PM
Yup.

Vista's 32 bit is a side step from XP... maybe even a slight back step. Other than the real pretty Aero design (and heavy security in the wrong places), there's no real advantage. Wait until 64 bit has settled and gained some driver and step on that band wagon. There is a pretty big speed increase with the 64... and THAT we can use. But the 32.... don't waste your money like I did.
Coursedesign wrote on 2/15/2007, 10:28 PM
The word is that nobody is buying Vista voluntarily, i.e. as an "upgrade." Very limited retail sales, far behind compared to when previous new versions of Windows were introduced.

Ballmer even had to go out today and deny the enthusiastic sales projections to Wall Street.

And Bill G. is cursing Apple's apparently effective TV commercials that hit Vista right in the solar plexus: its sanity-twisting security shield.

MS would have seen the horrible impact of this if the enormous bureaucracy hadn't been so busy with their tiger teams and 5,000+ project managers (the actual number employed at MS).

I predict MS will be forced to do away with this insanity no later than in SP1, in favor of something more like the simple, yet effective protection that serves the same purpose in OS X.

FuTz wrote on 2/16/2007, 3:10 AM
The numbers:
Vista: 59% drop in sales, compared to XP release.
BUT: a 67% rise in brand new PC sales at the same period last year.

Maybe people waited to have an OEM, relatively unbugged version before buying ?
Jayster wrote on 2/18/2007, 7:46 AM
Probably true. People waited a few months on that new PC purchase until they could get one that promises a free upgrade to the new OS. Thus a spike in sales (preceded by a drop)..

Funny thing is, Vista clearly states that you need 1GHz of RAM to meet their system requirements for all Vista variants except the "basic" package. And yet I see that new laptops are being sold with 512MB of RAM and the higher level packages of Vista.

It's kind of like using a VolksWagen Bug to tow a train car. I can't imagine that buyers of those budget laptops will be happy. And a few years later as they install more bloated software, it'll only get worse.
rmack350 wrote on 2/18/2007, 5:08 PM
They changed the security scheme in OSX? Last we were using it (for Media100 systems), our editor was grumbling about having to type in passwords to do administrative tasks. I though his solution was just to run OSX as an administrator.

The administrator/user issue was an extra problem because Media100 is hardware-based and so you needed lots of permissions that you wouldn't get with a standard user account.

This was really irksome for him since he'd just upgraded from the previous version of MacOS which wasn't Unix-like. It gets really aggravating to have to type in passwords (or just click "OK" in Vista) when ou've never had to do it before.

Rob Mack
TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/18/2007, 5:25 PM
Funny thing is, Vista clearly states that you need 1GHz of RAM to meet their system requirements for all Vista variants except the "basic" package. And yet I see that new laptops are being sold with 512MB of RAM and the higher level packages of Vista.

MS has always been WAY off about the min's. Using your analogy, I used a VW bug (P1-133, 96mb RAM) to tow a whole train! (XP Home) :)
Jayster wrote on 2/19/2007, 10:59 AM
I haven't used Vista, so I don't know, but reviews I read say that you really should have at least 1GB of RAM. They stated it was one of the first where MS got it right on their sys requirements.

If you were using XP on a P1-133, 96MB of RAM for XP, I would expect that PC was a slug. I can't imagine what you were using it to do, but I have Windows 2K on a P2-233 w/ 192 MB of RAM and it is unacceptably slow. I suppose it depends on what is a person's definition of "unacceptably slow". Every time I maximize a window it took about 10 seconds just to repaint the screen, and I couldn't stand it.