Thanks! I didn't know it was ready for use

Just make sure you read the release notes. Certain audio card drivers will gum up the install.

Also, Cineform HDLink appears quite stable under Vista SP1, so if you are one of th few people that have been having trouble with HDLink under Vista, you should see if you get any improvement.

If possible, run windows update first!

This gives 2 benefits. Firstly, if your system is ready for SP1, it means the download will be smaller (say 125MB instead of 775MB). Secondly, you MAY need certain drivers before your system will install SP! - seems audio drivers were high on the list of problems. If you need these first, they will show as optional downloads in win update, and SP! will not be visible. A quick update as necessary, and then your system should be good for SP1.

It's for 5 languages first, so if you're outside them - tough until mid April or so.

Seperately, it seems XP SP3 is due anytime next month (shouts are v. early Q2)

Otherwise, enjoy.

"Seperately, it seems XP SP3 is due anytime next month (shouts are v. early Q2)"

And I bet there is something in there that breaks XP which you can't uninstall. Forcing more people to move to Vista.

Sorry, I've seen that pattern many times before.


Skeptical Dave

"Sorry, I've seen that pattern many times before."

Yeah, right. Microsoft "broke" Windows95 forcing everyone to move to Win98. Then they "broke" Win98, forcing a move to Win2k. Then Win2k was "broken" making everyone move to WinXP. Nonsense! No one has been forced to upgrade, if anything they have been enticed to upgrade because of features in the new OS which made more powerful software possible.

You know, you can always go back to running Premiere v5 in Windows 95!

John

OK then.

Was hoping with all hope it would fix the infamous "Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered" problem that it seems a ton of people have but no one has a solution to ... SP1 included.

- Ray
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No cineform just crashes with my canon xh-a1 no difference..sigh!
How difficult can it be to sort this? I dont profess to be a programmer but then again I dont try to sell any software..
I now dont use cineform, vegas handles the hdv files just fine.oh and I can capture no problems!

The SP1 service pack will chew up quite a bit of room on the disk. If you are sure you want to keep SP1 then you can reclaim some of this space... follow these instructions:

SP1 comes with a simple cleanup tool where you can recover the space used by your old, pre-SP1 system files. To accomplish this task, use the Vista Service Pack 1 Cleanup Tool, which is installed with the service pack. Click Start, and type " vsp1cln " in the Search box to located the cleanup file. Click the file to open a Command Prompt window, type y to confirm that you really want to remove those files, and press Enter. The removal process is quick and does not require a reboot. On an Vista x64 installation, users reclaimed 1.5GB of extra disk space. On an Vista x86 installation, users reclaimed 600mb of extra disk space disk space.

You know, you can always go back to running Premiere v5 in Windows 95!

That's just asinine. Sorry, but for those of us who have been paying attention to what is going on in the world, and also actually have to deal with some of this every now and then, Windows Vista is a significant step backwards in functionality and features for most users.

Just a short background, to level-set. I started using Windows NT regularly quite a while before the first version, version 3.1 funnily enough, was released. On the developer network we got access to pre-releases of it. I had it installed as my second OS next to regular Windows until Microsoft released 3.51. Since then protected mode Windows (as opposed to real mode Windows which is just a pretty shell on top of DOS) has been my only OS. The Microsoft protected mode Windows versions share nothing with their real mode cousins and are known as Windows NT -> Windows 2000 -> Windows XP -> Windows Vista. The real mode OS's are known as Windows 1,2,3,3.1 (the first usable one) 3.11, 95, 98 and ME. Microsoft also developed a second protected mode OS, known as MS OS/2, which they abandoned in favor of Windows NT.

I have installed and run each of the new Windows OSs, and also each of the IBM versions of OS/2 when the were released or before they were released. I installed pre-releases of Windows Vista and I installed the release version of Vista as soon as I could get my hands on it. I hardly ever use it. As a side note, I have also run Linux since versoin 0.9.1 and onwards in various incarnations.

What I am trying to say is that I jump on new technologies as they come along, simply because I am a bit of a geek. I jumped on and off the Vista technology as well. It sucks. Big hairy balls. It is a massive step backwards. An operating system should be unobtrusive and assist you in your day to day tasks. Vista is obtrusive, annoying and a general PITA. Hopefully that will change, but I am not holding my breath.

Edit: Yes, I know calling Windows post 3.1 real mode is overly simplistic, but it is one way to distinguish the two lines of OSs from MS. For more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_9x

Edit 2: And NT 4.0. How could I forget NT 4.0. I spent years developing an information management system on NT 4.0 and IIS 2.0 and on. Wonderful stuff. Glad I am not doing it anymore :-)

From what I've read, there is talk that Windows 7 will be a yearly subscription based OS.

Not sure how that will fly with consumers...

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
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"It sucks. Big hairy balls.

Terje, you have such a way with words. If the "Ignore This User" function was still available, I'd be using it.

I would give Terje the benefit of the doubt that he actually meant "hairballs" like what a cat can throw up from time to time.

That's what I was thinking when I read what he wrote.



Only when you quoted him out of context did it make me lose my appetite.

Seriously.

But let's ask Terje to clarify his reference. Terje?

I installed the SP1 on my x64 Vista Ultimate; everything went smooth until I inserted the Sony SxS card into the PCIe->ExpressCard reader, and asked Vista to search for HW...At some stage, it simply rebooted.

Tried everything, but ended up removing any trace of the SxS/ExpressCard thingy in safe mode.

Looks like the SP1 developers didn't think of the ExpressCad technology, or Sony's Sxs driver needs updating.

You might find tweakguides of some use. Reports I've read indicate Microsoft have been pretty good at fixing problems users are having with Vista SP1. I don't have any Vista installs so I'm only going on what I've read.
You might also frind this guide of some use. Again no personal experience but it seems to cover how to roll back Vista.

Bob.

Seems like it's working now... I downloaded the driver again (says it's the same version, but gave it it a try anyway), and voila - it works!

What I suspect is - due to the unability to automatically mount/unmount the SxS device - I should have left the card in the reader when applying the SP1 patch; it could probably consider it while configuring itself.... Well, just a speculation.

But thanks, anyway!

PS. Oh, and I should add both Vegas Pro 8.0b and Edius BC 4.6 run like a dream!

Terje, you have such a way with words. If the "Ignore This User" function was still available, I'd be using it.

I am terribly sorry if I offended your (apparently extremely) delicate sensibilities. I didn't realize that you were so easily offended. Given the fact that you didn't have any counter points I have to assume you agree that your comment earlier was asinine. Thanks for the admission.

I don't have "delicate sensibilities" as I can easily keep up with any group of sailors in the foul language department. However, I do think a certain decorum should be maintained in public forums such as this. You and a couple of others here on the forum seem to think it's perfectly OK to be crude. It makes me considerably less likely to take anything that you, or the others, say seriously.

By the way, I didn't admit anything.

Microsoft Service Pack.

Three words that should send chills down anyone's spine.

My spine is nice and toasty. I installed SP1 on my Vista64 machine and it seems to have sped up a couple of things and broken nothing. I'm happy.

No f**kin s***, can't stand people who refuse to use decorum in a forum! (HEY, THAT RHYMED!)

On a side note it seems my issue with ""Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered" was possibly that my video card was not seated completely right. Hoping thats what it was anyway.

- Ray
Some of my stuff on Vimeo
www.undergroundplanet.com