Wow. Again, some really good help here. Thank you all so much. Really helps.

I will make the adjustments to the buisness card as soon as I can and post the results.

vtxrocketeer. Very nice help. Neat adventure, I did the canopy tour in Costa Rica too, so cool. Makes me think this could actually work. I have no idea what to do or where to start with the legal stuff but if I could get that sorted out... this might be a cool way to makes some dough.

Thanks bob...I will look into it and see what I need to do.


Again, thanks a million all for your kind help. I really appreciate it.


Josh

Josh, do you have dude ranches out there? Think City Slickers.

<putting on flameproof suit> I'm an attorney by profession and, while I can't give you legal advice (AND THERE IS NONE HERE WHATSOEVER, even between the lines so don't look for it), I can give you a practical hunch that the legal questions you need answered are likely small potatoes for a local ham-and-egger in CO (to suddenly wax culinary). Getting your ducks lined up straight is probably worth just a few hundred in billables that you'd pay to local lawyer. I'm totally risk averse -- aside from ziplining with several thousand dollars of AV gear strapped to me -- so that is what I would do if I were in your shoes, er, boots.

Steve

p.s. I really like your second attempt. Digital Juice stuff in there?

What's Digital Juice? Thanks Vxt Rocketeer. Appreciate it.

What do you guys think about this? Trying to get to a final. Gotto get it into print.




Thanks a million

Looks phenomenally better. I'm assuming your contact info is on back? 0.02 cents more opinion: it seems that you darkened the subtle background text, and it interferes slightly with the eye being drawn to your company title, but it may just be that your image upload is somehow darker. But this point is EXTREMELY knitpicky and disregard if the revision process is getting annoying.

As one of my military friends always tells me, there is a point where you just have to "fix bayonets," i.e., lock it in and move forward. I think you got incredibly useful information and it looks light years ahead of your initial card. I'd knock out a bunch and begin using them. You can always revise it if you get consistent feedback from potential customers.

I preferred the last one, I think you've gone a step too far. The two film reels with some minor color tweaking and a slight resize as I suggested in my last post would work better to my eyes. The camera with the film reels doesn't match the look and texture of the rest of the word, "Tendershoot." That last "T" is just dangling there. Besides, you don't shoot film, you shoot video, the film camera makes no sense.

Give the flange and spokes of the film reels the same black treatment as the text in Tendershoot, make the four cutouts in the film reels the same color as the background but just a bit darker, maybe the same reddish color as on the edges of the background. Make the two film reels approximately the same height as the rest of the text, which may require making "Tendershoot" slightly smaller to get it all to fit. The point is that you don't want people to have to figure out what is the name of your company. It should be clearly obvious at first glance and I think this latest treatment doesn't accomplish that as well as the last one.

Just my opinion...

Alright, I tried to do what you suggested John Cline. Tell me if this looks more right to you?

I don't know CClub, I think it the backround fonts look too dark too. I will see if that comes out in the final product.


Thanks a million guys. Hopefully I'll get it right one of these times.

Besides, you don't shoot film, you shoot video, the film camera makes no sense.

Not that I'm crazy about that particular film camera, saying that he shouldn't have it because he doesn't shoot film, he shoots video makes no sense either.

When's the last time you've used a floppy drive? Been a long time probably, but yet when you "save" a document, what icon do you click on? A little 3 1/2" floppy drive.

When you click "send" on an email, it's an icon of an envelope that you'd lick, stamp, and mail, but even kids know what it means.

Want to call someone on Skype, click the "old looking phone receiver" icon.

Point is, the film camera is an icon, I think everyone pretty much knows what it means.

I like your second design much better.

ice,
if you're as patient with taking feedback from customers -- and other experts in the field -- as you are with all of us on this forum, you should do well in business and well as your media education evolves. Hats off to you... and your business card is looking quite cool!

Thanks CClub. I try.

I like the way this last one looks. It's clear, easy to read but enough there to draw interest and make it stand out a little. I think the wheels look enough like 'O's that it doesn't look strange or break up the fluidity but has a 3rd dimension if someone wants it. I don't know. I'm no pro but I like.

I really appreciate where you guys have helped me get to. Thank you..



any concluding arguments? Lol.


ice

You're over-thinking it.

Save all the extra stuff for your website. Make your biz card as clean/simple as possible.

Wow. That looks great. I mean really professional. I love it.

Makes me realize how much I over clutter things and make them look crummy.


Thanks a million DGates for the example. Look's really nice.


Josh

I saw firsthand an example of crocdoc's suggestion above
That's cool - I didn't know if people actually did this, it was just a thought that struck me when the original poster described what he planned on doing.

I agree with dibbkd. Until recently, my employment involved a lot of signage and interactive touch screen graphics in a public institution. One thing I picked up on fairly quickly is that there are a number of universal symbols that only make sense from the perspective of history. The floppy drive, envelope and telephone receiver icons mentioned by dibbkd are classic examples of this. One of the touch screen programs I put together had a 'watch video' option and the icon was the silhouette of a really old, two reel style movie camera. No one, whether it be a non-English-speaking overseas visitor or six year old child, had problems figuring out what it meant. If I were to have created a silhouette of a modern digital video camera it would have made little sense to everyone but the technically literate and would even then have to be updated almost yearly to avoid looking dated, whereas the extremely old movie camera silhouette is timeless. The only other option for a near-universal symbol is a clapper board and how many of us actually use those in real life?

This isn't mine, but I'm guessing by the design of this icon that it wasn't done to represent film.

Thanks!

=]

"I think the wheels look enough like 'O's"

Those are film reels, you youngster, you!

"Those are film reels, you youngster, you!"


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