OT: wonderful mini videocamcorder: theflip.com

ken c wrote on 5/14/2007, 6:50 PM
Hi - I saw on another forum, someone raving about the "flip" video mini camcorder, www.theflip.com , and checked on amazon.com (where I bought it from) and I've gotta say it's a very very cool device, more fun than an ipod (which I still don't have one of)...

For $128 you get a device with, as the Wall Street Journal says, "stunning image quality", and will record 60 minutes at 640x480...

So it's perfect for my wife to take family vids of, and for youtube, as it has a built in USB dock... I'm quite impressed, just got mine today from amazon.com delivered, played with it for awhile w/my family, very good device, highly recommended. And for photos, I like the Casio exilims, though their vid cap quality isn't as good as this new "flip" video device...

check it out, esp. all the 130+ raving amazon.com reviews for it... I got the 60 minute version, so far very fun!

http://www.amazon.com/Flip-Video-Camcorder-60-Minutes-White/dp/B000ONFQ2K/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-1322278-5451859?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1179193830&sr=8-3


Ken

Comments

Former user wrote on 5/15/2007, 6:58 AM
Isn't this the same Disposable Camcorder that CVS drugstores sell. I think they sell it for $29.99 and you are supposed to bring it back for a DVD. But of course, people discovered how to hack it and make it a permanent camcorder.

Dave T2
Laurence wrote on 5/15/2007, 9:17 AM
Actually, it is made by the same people: http://www.puredigitalinc.com/products/index.htmlPure Digital Technologies[/link]

It turns out it actually records in 640x480 DivX. There is more info http://storage.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=134383here[/link], and a sample video http://images.digitalmedianet.com/2007/Week_18/s2yw7ax9/story/vid00001.avihere[/link].

As you can see, there's no stabilization, it's definately a camera that's just for fun, but ... not bad ;-)
Laurence wrote on 5/15/2007, 9:25 AM
I just tried dropping the sample into a Vegas timeline. It came right up and previewed nicely!
ken c wrote on 5/15/2007, 9:55 AM
It's great for kids, or families, as a nice-quality camcorder type unit, without worrying about whether they break it ... also great for youtube/any casual videos... nice plug-in USB connector so no need for specialized firewire/vidcap software....

very consumer-level, yet remarkably well implemented; I'm telling all my family and friends to buy one.. great for casual video shoots... and for getting kids/spouses into video, since so user-friendly..

ken
Laurence wrote on 5/18/2007, 8:27 AM
I ordered one of the one gig models and it just came today. Yeah it's cool. The image looks about the same as a regular consumer grade camcorder except that there's no stabilization and it's 30p rather than 60i. It comes with a little felt bag so you can stick it in your pocket without scratching the lense.

It has this port on the top where you can take it to a local CVS drugstore and they can make a DVD from it the same as they do from the "disposable" models. This is actually the perfect camcorder for so many people: my parents, my sister, my daughter. You can shoot, delete what you don't want, and when the memory is full, you can take it to the local drugstore, have a DVD made and start over. If you want to do it yourself, you can as well. I have no doubt that this is the future of consumer video. No lie, for most people, this would actually be better than the five and six hundred dollar models they are currently using. The main feature it needs is some kind of digital stabilization. Aside from that, it's almost perfect.

Edit after a little use:

Well maybe it isn't as good as I first thought:

The footage looks really good on my our old fashioned bedroom CRT TV, but not so great on our larger living room TV. It's almost strange how much difference there is between TVs. On the smaller CRT the footage looks just excellent but it just kind of falls apart on the bigger screen

Also, the high frequency audio response is not very good and sibilant sounds alias pretty badly. There's a huge variation in quality between low and good light. In low light the mpeg artifacts on the video grain look horrible whereas in good light they're not objectionable at all and the image is much better.

Details like grass and tree leaves tend to look blocky in the compression, whereas a human face against a plain background actually looks pretty good.

There is a digital zoom, but you should pretend that it isn't there. It looks terrible and you shouldn't use it.

Am I glad I bought it? Well yeah. It fits in my pocket and it's kind of fun. I'll probably end up giving it to my daughter though.
TShaw wrote on 5/24/2007, 2:08 PM
I saw on of these a Target the other day and they are the same camera that CVS drugstores sells. I got two the the CVS cameras
in Cleveland when thay first cam out, to play with. At $19.95 I had nothing to lose. The first model of the camera has a boatload of
hacks of it but I understand the they can not be used on the newer models. People like me were not returning them and downloading
the video without letting CVS have the cameras back...hay I'm a HAM
its my way. I guess Pure digital decided to cash in on them.

I'll put the little drugstore camera on a kite, but not my XL2!

Terry