Pan and Crop question

patreb wrote on 7/15/2004, 3:09 AM
It seems the Pan/Crop of Vegas 4 is a bit limiting.

I want to have a pictuer in picture. So first i resize the top clip's visisbilty so that only half shows and the rest shows the clip undernetah. Now (with Stretch to Fill Frame off) i move that crop to the area where i want the top clip to be... and finaly i want to reposition whtever is in teh top crop to show what i want ... but I can't. With Stretch to Fill the crop juts moves around while the clip is position in teh original position while when it's on i can move the clip but the crop stays in teh center...

Comments

jaegersing wrote on 7/15/2004, 3:40 AM
Hi patreb. If you just want to resize and move the clip, track motion is much easier to use. You can also apply a crop first using Pan/Crop and then use track motion to resize and move it around, but if you are keyframing the crop AND the motion you will probably get seasick trying to keep tabs on it all.

Richard Hunter

patreb wrote on 7/15/2004, 3:43 AM
Trcak Motion... is it in Vegas 4?
Chienworks wrote on 7/15/2004, 4:20 AM
In Vegas 4 there is a row of 5 buttons in the upper right corner of the track header. In order, left to right, they are Bypass Motion Blur, Track Motion, Track FX, Mute, and Solo. So yes, Track Motion is the second button which looks like a large rectangle pointing to a smaller rectangle in front of it.
patreb wrote on 7/15/2004, 4:25 AM
Thanks!
JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/15/2004, 7:32 AM
Richard suggests track motion is better for this, and that brings up a more general question:

I'm using Vegas 5. When to use Pan/Crop and when to use Track Motion? I've used both and it seems like they have a lot of overlap in functionality... in what cases should you prefer one over the other?

-Jayson
jetdv wrote on 7/15/2004, 7:48 AM
Yes, they have similar functionality. Here's a very general rule:

If you want to crop an image, zoom in on an image, pan an image, use Pan/Crop.

If you want to create a PIP or position an image, use Track Motion.

For photo montages, use Pan/Crop!
Grazie wrote on 7/15/2004, 7:50 AM
Excellent Question!

1 - P/C for descreet work to an Event. You don't want to effect ALL the track - just THAT event.

2 - T/M for the whole track which enconmpasses lotsa Events. If you were to work on each and every Event - within P/C - so that they had continuity, think of the muddle you could quickly get yourself into?

Grazie
JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/15/2004, 9:12 AM
Okay, so Track Motion is track only, and Pan/crop is event-only. That makes sense.

Also, Track Motion can do 3D, right? And Pan/Crop can't?

Why do you need to use TM for PiP? I would think you could shrink an event using pan/crop and overlay it on another for PiP effect. Why doesn't that work? What happens instead?

Also, for PiP, I guess you usually do it on multiple tracks, right? Not on one?

-Jayson

jetdv wrote on 7/15/2004, 9:44 AM
Yes, Track Motion does the 3D stuff.

The reason to use Track Motion for the PIP stuff is that it's easier. Plus, if you want to CROP the image and then PIP the image, you MUST use Track Motion for the PIP - otherwise you would UNCROP the image (as you must make Pan/Crop really big to create a PIP) Pan/Crop CAN definitely be used to create a PIP as that is how Tsunami performs that job.
Grazie wrote on 7/15/2004, 9:46 AM
.. otherwise it will give yah the PIP ! ahaha!