Pan and zoom effects in Vegas 9?

Hope wrote on 7/14/2010, 11:47 AM
Hello, I have been using Vegas 9 to put together a Tribute video for my grandmother with still images. This is by far the most advanced program that I have ever used but have managed to figure it out for the most part...

The last issue that I am experiencing is that I cannot figure out how to make the still images, pictures, pan and zoom while the movie is playing?? I want the images to pan and zoom rather than just staying "static" in between transitions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Arthur.S wrote on 7/14/2010, 11:58 AM
I love the "figured it out for the most part" Hope. That's more than a lot of us have done! :-)
You need to click on the 'event pan/crop' of each clip. Little squarish box on the right edge of the clip.
jetdv wrote on 7/14/2010, 12:12 PM
Open Pan/Crop, set the first keyframe where you want the Pan/Zoom to start and make a second keyframe at the end where you want the Pan/Zoom to end.

With the Pro version and scripting, this process can also be automated. For example, Montage Magic was designed to automate and simplify this process.
Dennishh wrote on 7/14/2010, 6:06 PM
I downloaded the trial of Montage Magic and can't say enough good things about it! I'm a full time still shooter just starting to incorporate some Video into my work so anything that can automate is just what I need. The speed and quality of 5Dmk2 hi-res images with Montage Magic and Vegas is astonishing.
Earl_J wrote on 7/14/2010, 6:15 PM
Hope,
this might work for you ...
Configure the first image with the pan/zoom you want;
Right click that image and select copy...
Right click on the next image and select Paste Event Attributes ...

Alternately, you can select all events to end and then paste the attributes to apply that same pan/zoom to all images ...

You can then visit each image and make sure the spot you want to be the focus is zooming to the right spot; you'll only need to alter the end point; all the start keyframes will be identical...

I think that'll help cut a bit of time off your editing ... you'll still have to visit each one, but you'll only need to alter the end point keyframe ...

Also, don't forget for some images, you may want to rotate them a bit as well. . .
move out near a handle on the perimeter in the pan/zoom window - outside the circle, but inside the square - and the arrow will become a circle; you may then grab the handle and rotate it a bit.

The image will then pan, zoom, and rotate as well ...

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By the way, welcome to Vegas editing. . . (wink)

Until that time... Earl J.
Hope wrote on 7/15/2010, 6:29 AM
Thank you so much for the tips you guys! I have spent so many hours trying to figure this out on my own because I am somewhat stubborn ;-)

Oh, and Earl J you have saved my behnd on this one because I would have been going through and doing them one at a time and I have close to 300 ;(

Your tip works beautifully!

Thanks again you guys rock...
jetdv wrote on 7/15/2010, 6:42 AM
They only problem with the copy/paste method is that you will get the exact same zoom on every image. It will get redundant after a while. Manually doing each one or using the script methods will break up the monotony by adding variety to the zooms/pans.
Earl_J wrote on 7/15/2010, 7:29 AM
Hello Hope,
as Edward (jetdv) indicated, you'll still have to visit each one to see if the effect is suitable for each image... and perhaps just alter the end point keyframe from time to time... and perhaps just gently rotate every tenth or twentieth image (about 2 degrees or so) ...
I'm glad it worked for you ...
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I'm the last guy to put words in anyone's mouth - but I think we're all here to do what we can with what we have from where we are... (grin)
Don't worry, you'll have a few Vegas Pro tidbits to share with newcomers before too long...

Until that time ... Earl J.
dxdy wrote on 7/15/2010, 9:00 AM
Montage Magic is the way pan and zoom should work, IMHO. I struggled and struggled with the concept of moving the camera instead of the photo, and finally grasped it after many months. If I had MM at the beginning, I would have saved myself a ton of frustration. It is drag and drop...green frame around the starting position and red frame around the ending position - it just doesn't get much easier.

With or without MM, You may have to use a combination of event pan/zoom and track pan/zoom to get things to turn out just the way you want.
Hope wrote on 7/15/2010, 2:47 PM
Yes, I plan on exploring all of that but in the meantime the copy and paste worked nicely. I did go through and "fiddle" with the images intermittantley so that they were not all the same.

My problem is that I am out of time. I was supposed to get this finished up so I could make copies for family members as I am going out of town tomorow.

I just asked this in the DVD architect forum but does anyone here have any advice for me regarding rendering times? 15 HOURS! Oh my goodness there has to be a better way to do this??
rs170a wrote on 7/15/2010, 2:55 PM
Letting us know how long the project is and what your CPU is would be a big help here.
Also, how many drives are on your system?
This is why filling out your system specs in your profile is always a good thing to do.

Mike
Hope wrote on 7/15/2010, 3:01 PM
Right, saw that, I do apologize, I'm just kind of in a hurry today and Im feeling a little frantic.

1791 MB of RAM but shows that to be about 75% free. 32 bit operating system. Newer system, just the 1 drive I believe? (Bare with me here). I know that I don't have all of the beefed up video capabilities on my computer...

The movie is pretty long, about 30 minutes...
rs170a wrote on 7/15/2010, 3:07 PM
30 min. is not a long video, even with a lot of FX, to warrant a 15 hr. render.
What about your CPU though?
Is it a P4, quad core, etc.?

Mike
Hope wrote on 7/15/2010, 3:22 PM
Oh boy I knew I was in over my head when I started this :-))

Um, this is what my system info says:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.30 GHZ

Is that what you meant? Am I even doing it right, I said to "render" it should I have chosen the save as option or something and still been able to transfer into DVD architect? I know my FX and everything are pretty basic so I don't know...

Oh and I do defragment and all of that on a regular basis, don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.
rs170a wrote on 7/15/2010, 4:15 PM
That's a decent CPU so there's no way it should take 15 hr. to render.
You didn't say if you have Vegas Pro or one of the Movie Studio versions.
If it's Movie Studio, I believe there's a "Make DVD" button right in Vegas.
If it's Vegas Pro you have, render it as follows.
Let's call the project "grandma".
Render the audio first using "Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro".
The default template is fine here.
Now render the video by choosing "MainConcept MPEG-2".
Select either the "DVD Architect NTSC video stream", "DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream", "DVD Architect PAL video stream" or "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" template, depending on your needs and country of origin.
Now click the "Custom" button.
If you're using Pro 8, select "Best" in the tab that comes up and then click the "Video" tab.
In here, click "Constant bit rate" and set this to 8,000,000.
Click OK and render your video.
If you're using Pro 9, the first part (choosing your template) is the same.
The "Video" tab is the first tab to come up when you click "Custom".
Set "Constant bit rate" to 8,000,000.
Now click the "Project" tab and set "Video rendering quality" to "Best".
Click OK and render your video.

Make sure you give both files the same name (i.e. grandma.ac3 and grandma.mpg) and render them to the same folder.
That way, when you load the video file into DVD Architect, the audio file will automatically follow.

BTW, if any of this confuses you, Edward Troxel has an excellent (and free) issue of his newsletter on his site dedicated to DVD authoring.

Mike
Hope wrote on 7/15/2010, 4:38 PM
I'm sorry, I'm using Vegas Movie Studio 9.

Ok, I'm really scared to stop it as it has already been rendering for 3 hours **insert eye roll here**

I'm going to give it a shot though, thannks so much for the help. This has definatley been a learning experience for me and it's my own fault for trying to finish this the day before I need it.
jetdv wrote on 7/16/2010, 7:59 AM
Please note that Movie Studio has it's own forum here. Asking these questions there will give you more appropriate answers. For example, Montage Magic will not work in the Movie Studio versions as they don't support scripting but I mentioned it because it works great in the Pro version.