Pan question - all the way left or right

kkmm wrote on 5/28/2003, 4:04 PM

Greetings,

I read the post a few days ago about mono to stereo simulation and thought I'd give a few of those ideas a try. One of the recommendations was to create a second audio track and pan one to all the way to the left and the other track all the way to the right and then play with each channels equalizer, etc.. When I pan one track all the way to the left or right, I still hear music coming out of the other speaker........even if I solo or mute one of the tracks, I still cannot get the audio to play out of one speaker. The mixer shows levels on only one channel, but I still get audio out of both speakers. I am using VV3..........is there a trick that I am missing? All help is appreciated as I have a few recordings that I'd love to try to simulate a stereo sound.

Thanks,

KM

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kameronj wrote on 5/28/2003, 4:37 PM

What you really could do is get Vegas Audio, Sound Forge, or Acid and do it there.

You can even take a mono file and process it to go to both speakers (right and left). Then save it as a wav or mp3 and eimport it into vegas vid.

kkmm wrote on 5/28/2003, 6:23 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. I figured since the audio was with the video that I would try in on the timeline as the easiest way. I'll keep looking............seems pretty simple, but it's not working on VV3........yet.

Thanks,

KM

ricklaut wrote on 5/28/2003, 6:54 PM

I did something similar the other day - it might get you what you're after.

Create 2 audio tracks. Put your mono audio clip on one track; copy that clip and place it on your second track. Offset one of the tracks by a couple of frames; pan one track 70% to the left and pan the other track 70% to the right. (ok - as I re-read your post, you've basically tried the same thing)

I'm not sure why you're having problems with the pan working correctly - any chance that piece is a hardware problem?

Rick

kkmm wrote on 5/28/2003, 8:42 PM

Thanks,

Yep, that is what I tried, but I'm finding something weird with my pc rather than VV3. I've just checked all my audio connections in case I did a bonehead thing while connecting and that's not it.............Even when I play a CD in MusicMax, when I shift the balance all the way to the left with my pc's volume controls, the left audio is played out of both speakers.....I always assumed the right speaker would grow silent as I put the balance to the left like it does on all my home audio equipment. Am I that dumb that I never noticed this before or is my pc acting strange? I can take it if I am that dumb.........It wouldn't be the first time!

KM

philfort wrote on 5/28/2003, 9:54 PM

YOu might want to check your sound card volume settings...
Go into the Control Panel, find the Sounds and Audio Devices dialog, and poke around in there to see if there are any ususual settings. In mine, there's an advanced dialog that has volume and balance settings for different things

MarkWWWW wrote on 5/29/2003, 8:03 AM

I'd guess your soundcard has some sort of "wide stereo" or "stereo enhancement" or "3D stereo" gimmick set in its control panel/drivers. If so, turn it off and you should find that panning will behave properly.

(These settings are supposed to make the stereo image wider than the distance between the speakers. They do this by feeding some of the right channel into the left speaker with the phase inverted and feeding some of the left channel into the right speaker with the phase inverted. This does make the stereo image sound extra wide, but it also sounds very weird and means that you can't pan things normally.)

Mark

kkmm wrote on 5/29/2003, 8:32 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Haven't found it in the sound card.......yet, but I'm still searching. There has to be a setting there that is messing with my panning ability as Mark has suggested. I just never noticed it before this panning excersize pointed it out.

Ken

TorS wrote on 5/29/2003, 9:20 AM

kameronj
Vegas Audio??? There is no such thing. There used to be, but that was Vegas Video with only one video track. When SoFo released VV3 there was no VA3 to follow. And now it's only V4.
Still, it's one of the best Audio recording/editors there is.
Tor