Panning & Cropping Question

pbailey wrote on 11/20/2003, 10:19 AM
Noticed that SB does not use the keyframe method of P & C, but rather a "begin" and "end." It would appear that this limits the potential effects that are possible. Am I correct in this assumption? Also, not much is mentioned in the SB manual about text effects. Can text be manipulated with the P & C as well as video and stills?

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JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/20/2003, 1:21 PM
> Noticed that SB does not use the keyframe method of P & C, but rather a "begin" and "end."

Keyframing is a hard concept for some people to grasp and so I think the begin-end paradigm is good for beginners. They also need to give you a reason to upgrade to Vegas. ;-)

> It would appear that this limits the potential effects that are possible. Am I correct in this assumption?

Well... yes and no. You just have to approach the problem a little differently and split your video up more. So if you want to zoon in, then pan across, then zoom out, instead of being able to use keyframes, you must split your event into three events and then apply begin-end, three times instead of adding 3 keyframes to one event. (i.e., Event1(begin zoom-in, end zoom-in), Event2(begin pan, end pan), Event3(begin zoom-out, end zoom-out))

> Also, not much is mentioned in the SB manual about text effects. Can text be manipulated with the P & C as well as video and stills?

Yes, Pan/Crop works great on text too. Don’t forget you can also use transitions on titles. So if you want your title to fly in just apply the appropriate transition. (i.e., make a fade and then add the transition to the fade to change it)

~jr
pbailey wrote on 11/21/2003, 5:08 AM
Thanks for the detailed answer. I purchased SB yesterday and discovered the fact that it was necessary to split the video if I wanted to put a little more into the project. After playing with all the other demo softwares out there I would have to say that SB is the best and most fun; however, I am saving my pennies for the V4 purchase. :)
IanG wrote on 11/21/2003, 6:49 AM
Just to take ~jr's answer a bit further, once you've finished defining the pans and crops you can select the clips and group them so that they move as a single event.

Ian G.
dand9959 wrote on 11/21/2003, 7:35 AM
As stated above, the way to get an effect such as: Pan in - Hold - Pan out in MS is to split the video in 3 pieces: Pan the first in, Leave the second piece alone, pan the 3rd piece out.

My question is: Is there any way to match the pan/zoom/size settings of the end of the first clip to the beginning of the second clip? It can be a real pain, especially if I've panned and zoomed to some point in one clip, to get the beginning of the second clip to start in that same pan/zoom/size position.

IanG wrote on 11/21/2003, 7:46 AM
I don't have VF to hand, but I thought the coordinates could be read from one clip and entered into another. Failing that, you could zoom in before you split the clip, then adjust the start of the first part and the end of the last.

Ian G.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/21/2003, 8:04 AM
In Pan/Crop, the first/top icon on the left side (Show Properties) will open a properties window. You can manually copy down the exact properties and type them in as the starting point of the next clip. I know it’s tedious but it works. You need Vegas to do a Paste Attributes.

~jr
rdavis01 wrote on 11/21/2003, 9:23 AM
Here is how to match the settings from the end of one clip to the beginning of the next clip from page 91 of the Movie Studio 3.0 manual:

Continuity
But how do you insure continuity? Each time you drop an instance of the master clip into the
timeline, it starts with the whole image. To make a seamless transition, each subsequent clip in
the sequence has to use the same zoom and pan settings as the last frame of the previous clip.
Otherwise the frame will jump back to the whole picture at the edit point – not the effect we’re
looking for
Fortunately, the Screenblast Movie Studio software features Presets, an easy way to create
continuity using the Pan/Crop function. The Preset function lets you name and store a Preset
with the exact settings of the current Size, Center, and Angle Position parameters.
Here’s the step-by-step method to make smooth moves from clip to clip in the sequence:
1. Open the Video Properties window and Pan/Crop tab for the first clip.
2. Click the End button to go to the Pan/Crop settings for the last frame of the clip.
3. Type a name for these position settings in the Preset name box.
4. Click the Floppy Disk Icon to save the settings as a Preset.
5. Close the Video Properties window for this clip.
6. Open the Video Properties window and Pan/Crop tab for the next clip.
7. Click the Begin button then select the preset you saved from the Preset menu.
8. This clip now starts with the same settings as the end of the last clip.
9. Click the End button and set the position for the last frame of the clip.
10. Continue this process for each instance of the clip for all subsequent moves.
Voila! In just ten steps, the end result shows multiple moves flowing smoothly into each other
on a single clip.
dand9959 wrote on 11/21/2003, 10:04 AM
Excellent. Thanks! I hadn't thought of using the saved presets feature, even though I've used it for other things like title screens.
Kalvos wrote on 11/21/2003, 6:22 PM
Bob - Thanks for the imaginative & detailed post.

Dennis


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JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/21/2003, 10:32 PM
Yea, I keep forgetting you can save presets. That really saves a lot of time. Thanks,

~jr
BrianJ wrote on 11/22/2003, 4:01 AM
To save the pan/crop position to use in the next clip you can just save it. Just position & size the pan/crop frame the way you want it. Go to the white bar at the top of the pan/crop window marked 'preset'. It probably contains '(untitled)'. Just type in whatever name you want to give this pan/crop setting and click the diskette icon just to the right of the 'preset' field. You can name, save and reuse as many pan/crop frame settings as you like. When you go to the next clip where you want to use the same settings you saved, just click the pulldown on the 'preset' field and you'll see the list of all the settings you've saved. Works very well.
BrianJ wrote on 11/22/2003, 4:02 AM
Should've read the rest of this thread before I gave the same answer that had already been posted. Sorry!