Pinnacle Break-Out Box & VMS6

skinned_knee wrote on 12/19/2006, 10:18 PM
I have converted from Pinnacle Studio to Vegas Movie Studio - best move I've ever made...
But - when I try to use the Pinnacle "break-out box" to capture, I get an error that the device is in use, or locked, or something (I'm not on that PC right now to confirm exact message) - Pinnacle Studio is still able to use the box without problem, so I don't see it being a hardware issue. I have restarted the PC and gone straight to VMS to be sure Pinnacle isn't still holdin on to part of it, and that doesn't help.
Since VMS "sees" the box as an option, I'm stumped...

I know lots of people have change from Pinnacle to VMS - I can't be the first to run into this problem, can I?

Comments

Chienworks wrote on 12/20/2006, 2:59 AM
You're not the first. You're probably about #38,542 to have this problem. Pinnacle's hardware is proprietary and tied to their own software. They don't let it work with anything else. The solution? Use Pinnacle to capture, then use Vegas to edit and render.
skinned_knee wrote on 12/20/2006, 1:39 PM
Thanks - that is what I have been doing - but I'm planning on moving this system to a new computer and I had hoped Pinnacle Studio would never have to touch it.

Guess I need to start searching for recommended A/V to firewire converstion devices.

Thanks!
Tech Diver wrote on 12/21/2006, 10:26 AM
Hi Skinned Knee,
I would very strongly encourage you NOT to load anything from Pinnacle onto your new machine. Even after you uninstall their application and run their Regclean tool, there are literally hundreds of entries still left in the Windows Registry. Until I spent a number of days hand sanitizing the registry, I would still see their device drivers listed in various other applications.

I suggest accepting your loss of the breakout box and chalk it up to being part of the Pinnacle curse.

Regards,
Peter

PS: Glad you are happy with your move to Vegas.
skinned_knee wrote on 12/21/2006, 10:54 PM
I am extremely pleased with the move to Vegas - so much so, that this latest venture is for work.

** Boring history follows.... You have been warned...
I have worked in broadcast engineering (television) for 18 or so years - so naturally, I played with editing at home. I started with Pinnacle Studio and was one of the few happy people with it. A year or so ago, we started doing more video (news stories, etc) on our website, along with video podcasts - the corporate folks recommended Pinnacle Studio as the app to use, since it was cheap, simple, and would make wmv and m4p videos fairly well - since I was familiar with the app, it sounded good to me. Easy to train folks on, etc... (I was the IT Manager at the time)
A couple of weeks ago, my job changed - I am now the Director of Internet Services (WebMaster - LOL) for the tv station, so all of these videos are now "my thing" ---- Since I found Vegas (thanks to Tech Diver) a few months ago, and made the switch at home - I immediately started pushing for Vegas at work. They finally OK'd it, and it arrived this week - I had convinced them it would do all we needed, and do it better, and I would be faster with it, etc etc...
Now I find that I can't use the break out box that came with Pinnacle S9 S10, whatever it was, on the new machine I'm building up for the job.
Now I need to find an inexpensive system of converting analog A/V to firewire...
Before you say it - $60 for VMS7 plus the cost of a capture system should be nothing to a TV Station - you're right, it would be nothing - except my position is brand new, and I've already pushed the $$ limit on some other things getting started, and they can always argue that we have something in place.... so I've got to tread lightly for a while.
Tech Diver wrote on 12/22/2006, 6:40 AM
Many people use the Canopus products. Their low-end bi-directional converters are priced around $220. Also note that many consumer and a few professional video cameras have built-in a/d capabilities. If you want to keep your budget down and you have such a camera, use it as your converter. They usally do a very good job.
Paul Mead wrote on 12/22/2006, 9:04 AM
I can sympathize with your plight. I was trying to limit my expenditure in getting setup for video editing and spent a lot of time and effort trying to get my low-end ATI video capture to deliver decent results. After many hours of frustration (poor quality, flaky behavior, etc.) I finally gave up and bought a generic firewire card and a Canopus ADVC110. I had it setup and working within a couple minutes and the results were excellent. I regretted not doing it sooner -- I wasted too much time screwing around with a configuration that was simply never going to do what I wanted. Yeah, I spent more money than I wanted, but that's something you just have to do sometimes.
billynmi wrote on 12/27/2006, 12:46 PM
The Canopus 55 is a little cheaper and does a good job also. However you cannot use it to ouput your digital video. It is one way only.

Billy