It's still a fact that laws only apply to citizens of a country or when you are within the country.
So US laws do not apply to Australian citizens living here or anywhere else except the USA. Australian citizens can be charged under some Australian laws for acts commited outside Australia's borders. Citizens of the United States can and are arrested for breaking the laws of Australia. When extradited they may also be arrested in the USA if they have breached certain US laws.
International copyright laws simply don't exist. There's the Berne treaty which requires the signatories to enact copyright laws that meet certain criteria. There is quite a few variations on those though.
It should be remembered that the operators of Pirate Bay have already been before the courts and acquitted. They host nothing, not a single song or movie on their servers. The rest of the world views the current action as another example of US gun boat diplomacy.
The case against them is a very trumped up conspiracy charge.
What so plain dumb is that sites such as PirateBay are irrelevant, you no longer need them to find downloads. Without this publicity they probably would have just faded away, they should give the RIAA and MPAA a slice of their revenue, without them they would have just gone broke. Today you just hook the right appliance onto the net and wait for it to fill 4TB of disks with music and movies, the whole process is now automated and untraceable. The RIAA and MPAA are left chasing ghosts.
This thread was started on 1/31/2008 at 1:42:14 PM, and as far as I understand it, the PirateBay was not closed on that day, that year, or the year before it. I'm still confused by the title of this post, and maybe I need to get over it.
Patyk makes an interesting point - it's easier to relate to the pretentious and sarcastic rebuttals of The Pirate Bay before the sound and technical threats of attorneys. And if the attorneys are the good guys and they appear so corporate, disconnected, and disenchanting, then how do you cheer for them? Are we feeling or rationalizing a sense of justice because we feel like the industry has wronged us? If things would be better through our laws we have put in place, how can we put our hearts behind it?
It's not about the lawyers or about RIAA or Pirate bay.
It's about you, the artist, creating something and your rights of distributing it the way you want to distribute it taken away.
The retarded monkeys at Pirate bay are on record saying that they can steal anything they want because they decide if that's immoral or not and nobody else ( it's on video in a bbc interview ).
the only people who can possibly relate to those guys are either completely uninformed or people who have nothing worth stealing and at the same do not value other people's right to decide how their work should be disributed, or both.
>>>It's still a fact that laws only apply to citizens of a country or when you are within the country. <<<<
Not really. The law applies no matter where you are, it's just a question of whether they can get you. It's like saying that the law doesn't apply to Bin Laden because he's not in the US. Copyright law is no different. It's just that in that case they don't care enough to go get you themselves, but there have been cases where people were arrested after entering the US even though the crime was commited abroad ( and it was copyright related, so the US copyright law was applied while they were still out of the country, the it was enforced when they entered the country ).
Just wait until people can share oil over the internet. There will be us troops in Sweden in less than a week after the first download.
I've read these, and other similar threads and often come away not a little depressed. I want exposure but I don't want to be ripped off. I want people to use my work, but I want acknowledgment for that work - money is good. "Show-Business - No Business No Show" - now, who said that? OK, reference to our own Vic Milt.
So, as a content creator, what really, feasibly, sensibly can be done?
"So, as a content creator, what really, feasibly, sensibly can be done?"
Your asking the right kind of question!
Perhaps instead of getting depressed we should revel in what the digital age has brought us. We can chat for hours across the world for free. I can watch your movie anywhere on the planet. Our work can last forever with a little care. How many have tried in the past to achieve that immortality.
New technology is always disruptive, no doubt the printing press caused a lot of grief for the monks. We go through a phase of discontent while we adjust to the change but in the end artists keep creating art because it's an inate part of being human.