Pixel to pixel, why are my titles so huge?

Philip wrote on 4/20/2018, 9:40 PM

I am making some graphics, such as some title text and a bottom third ID, in Gimp, using a canvas (sic) of 1920x1080 pixels at 72ppi. I size the items approximately within the frame as I expect them to appear. When I bring them into Vegas and onto the timeline, however, they're HUGE. I will be grateful to understand why this is happening and how to size my Gimp canvas to match the video frame's, assuming, of course, that the project is 1920x1080.

Thanks.

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Former user wrote on 4/20/2018, 10:07 PM

Can you upload a screen grab of your VMS settings and your GIMP settings?

EricLNZ wrote on 4/20/2018, 10:13 PM

Also check the pixel size of your exported files from Gimp. I suspect they are not actually 1920x1080.

Former user wrote on 4/20/2018, 10:18 PM

Yeah, as EricLNZ questions, you could be saving it in a different resolution.

Philip wrote on 4/21/2018, 7:21 AM

Thanks all. Project settings are indeed 1920x 1080. The attached media info is for the exported jpeg of the full image from Gimp, showing the same dimensions I created for the Gimp image. I don't know where to find export settings in Gimp; I'll have to look it up. For the two halves for Vegas, I cropped down to each half-word and exported as jpeg similarly. The screen shot shows the first half over a clip from my Vixia. The cropped Physi image size is 568x228, according to Gimp. I would think it would be less than 1/3 the width and a quarter the height of the frame. but Vegas shows its info (3rd image) as corresponding to the appearance.

Former user wrote on 4/21/2018, 7:47 AM

Now you are throwing something else in the mix here. Are the 2nd two images of the 1920 x 1080 graphic or the 568 x 228 graphic?

Vliegvisser wrote on 4/21/2018, 9:55 AM

For an image, at all sizes, put into a HD project, it is normal that is shows in preview at that HD project size.
For resizing to its actual dimensions it is better to use trackmotion and type manually the pixel size of that image at "Position/Width and Hight"

Philip wrote on 4/21/2018, 3:20 PM

Now you are throwing something else in the mix here. Are the 2nd two images of the 1920 x 1080 graphic or the 568 x 228 graphic?

Sorry to be unclear. The Physi shown in the preview window was cropped from the full word in Gimp. The full Gimp "canvas" was 1920x1080, and the font size was chosen to be about the way I wanted it to appear; probably about 200 pt. It seems that you are suggesting that the cropped image is automatically enlarged to fill the frame when brought onto the timeline. Is that true? If, so, that would mean that I need to export whatever I want on a full frame-size image, rather than cropping it before it comes into Vegas.

If that is true, I am curious as to why Vegas does this. Does it have something to do with its ability to mix video formats on the timeline?

Thanks.

 

Former user wrote on 4/21/2018, 5:35 PM

You can bring the smaller size in but yes, Vegas will try to match it to the project properties. But if you look up at the left of the Pan Crop window you can see the size that Vegas had made it. Just change that back to original size if you need or you can bring in a 1920 x 1080 graphic and it will be imported correctly. You can crop in Vegas if you want to only display part of the word at a time.

Philip wrote on 4/22/2018, 8:48 AM

As I wait for delivery of Steve Grisetti's just-published guide to v15, which will probably answer many questions of mine, one further one on this subject. I re-created the graphics, this time bringing in the full frame rather than cropping down to the word, and noticed the "stretch to fill frame," control also at the left in pan/crop, but the behavior is strange. With the uncropped graphic, there is a slight change in position when I change the setting from yes to no; with a cropped piece (cropped in from Gimp, as above), when I set it to yes, the graphics shrink, when no, they enlarge. Maybe I should just wait for the book...?

Former user wrote on 4/22/2018, 9:07 AM

The stretch to fill comes into play when you start trying to adjust the size or crop of the video. I suggest you play with all of the settngs and see how they affect resizing and cropping. Each one has a purpose but probably not what you think. Also, right click on the image in pan crop and you see some options there. One important one is the Match Output Aspect and Match Source Aspect. These have a major effect on how a graphic is treated when cropped or zoomed.