Playback Unresponsive V22 250

joshua-noesser wrote on 7/28/2025, 3:31 PM

Is anyone getting a ton of unresponsive actions from the software while trying to rewatch video clips? (Screen goes hazy white) The video is roughly 45 minutes long. There has always been issues with this software but 250 seems to have this problem a lot. While editing one clip at a time there isn't much of a problem, but when you are going over the video to add music and voice overs it goes unresponsive way to offten. Sometimes open up another application will unfreeze it, like open up a web browser, other times you can wait it out, but at least 70% of the time you have to force quit and restart.

 

 

Hardware

i9-14900k

96 GB Ram

Nvidia RTX4080 (Driver 577.00 latest)

Windows 11
 

 

Problem Description
   Application Name:    VEGAS Pro
   Application Version: Version 22.0 (Build 250)
   

Fault Process Details
   Process Path:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 22.0\vegas220.exe
   Process Version:     Version 22.0 (Build 250)
   Process Description: VEGAS Pro
 

General
Complete name                            : E:\Videos\395 2025 June 20 (Mam Hot, Crow, Coyot flt, alab, swan, gordo)\GH6\P1004682.MP4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/hvc1)
File size                                : 1.45 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 min 9 s
Overall bit rate                         : 96.2 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2 min 9 s
Bit rate                                 : 95.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.193
Stream size                              : 1.44 GiB (100%)
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 2 min 9 s
Source duration                          : 2 min 9 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 1.93 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 1.93 MiB (0%)
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-22 14:30:09 UTC

Comments

joshua-noesser wrote on 7/28/2025, 3:33 PM

i am going to try and move my preview screen to draft auto to see if that helps.

joshua-noesser wrote on 7/28/2025, 4:46 PM

This seems to have helped.

Other symptoms. Usually before this happens, the playback and scrolling get laggy. Sometimes it recovers, then other times it does the above. After moving to draft, it still does that, but not as bad. (Important to note, it isn't the clips as it won't do it consistantly for the same clip and will 100% be different between application restarts). But after switching to draft, it seems have helped. When the lag starts, its less, and so far for the last 30 minutes of working on it, it hasn't locked up once.

FYI - system resources were never even close to max when this issue happens.

bitman wrote on 7/29/2025, 6:45 AM

@joshua-noesser I had no issues with a few VP22 build versions back half a year or so, but I just experianced the same issue with VP22 b250: a few clips on timeline, no editing done yet on them, just playing them and I see the memory go up to 5 GB (out of my 64GB) until the end of last clip, memory leak?

Anyway, I had several no responding hangs, even after restarting. This should not happen, not if you haven't even started with the real editing (cutting/ pan crop, zoom, plug ins, audio and video enhancement, text etc...)

 

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joshua-noesser wrote on 7/29/2025, 12:42 PM

@joshua-noesser I had no issues with a few VP22 build versions back half a year or so, but I just experianced the same issue with VP22 b250: a few clips on timeline, no editing done yet on them, just playing them and I see the memory go up to 5 GB (out of my 64GB) until the end of last clip, memory leak?

Anyway, I had several no responding hangs, even after restarting. This should not happen, not if you haven't even started with the real editing (cutting/ pan crop, zoom, plug ins, audio and video enhancement, text etc...)

 

Yup same

FYI - I am still getting lagging, just not the full unresponsive. Hopefully someone knows what's going on here as it seems to be only v250

andyrpsmith wrote on 7/30/2025, 10:34 AM

I'm not experiencing slow playback or hazy screens but when moving clips it takes about 2sec to grab the clip and start moving. It moves OK when it starts to move. Just loaded the same clips into V21 and dragging clips is instant, so it looks like there is an issue with V22 250 that needs looking at?

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(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

andyrpsmith wrote on 7/30/2025, 11:08 AM

I find when loading a few clips everything is fast no lag but after editing for a while - adding FX levels/stabilisation/fades etc the lag appears.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/2/2025, 4:18 AM

I would be grateful for some advice on this. The issue I am having is as above, as I edit a project - only using a few FX and fades I get increasing lag when moving clips on the time line. My current project is about 17 min in length. The media is Sony AX700 XAVCS 4K. I have about 15 clips to do (all on the timeline) and the lag is now about 3 sec for the clip to move after grabbing it with the mouse. Everything else is fine - play back, opening FX, grabbing the timeline bar to expand/contact/move the timeline. Media and Vegas are on different gen 4 NVMe drives at 7000mb/s, RAM is 96GB. This is not a V22 250 issue as I can copy and paste the project into both V21 and V20 with the same lag issue. I have a couple of other recent projects which show the same lag and also a very recent one 9 min in length, same media, same FX where there is no lag - very strange. I need to somehow bottom out why this is and what is the reason. Many thanks.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/2/2025, 5:15 AM

I think I found the culprit - RX10 Spectral Denoise. When removing this sound Fx (I had about 10 or so clips where I used this to remove wind noise) the lag got less and when all removed the lag has gone.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Reyfox wrote on 8/2/2025, 5:31 AM

When you say "removed", do you mean deleting the RX10 or just unchecking the box. I'll use FX, playback (or even render) the clip, and if it is what I want, disable the FX until I am finished editing. But for the most part, my computer has enough "horsepower" to get really decent playback frame rates with different Preview settings.

Your computer should also have no issues. Is the RX10 Denoise optimized in any way to make use of your GPU?

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Vegas Pro 22 B250 (VP18-21 also installed)

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32GB DDR4 3200

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Boris FX Continuum Complete 2025.5.1, Newblue FX Total FX360, Ignite Pro V5

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/2/2025, 6:53 AM

I find this: above 13 clips the lag is 3 sec or more, above 5 clips the lag is 1.5 sec, 3 clips it is 0.5sec, 1 clip is no lag.

If you just deselect the FX the lag remains, it must be removed and project saved.

It does not seem to use the GPU and looking at settings there is no option for it. It has a setting to enable multicore which I have enabled. The documentation indicates that spectral denoise uses a lot of memory and cpu power while voice denoise is much less intensive (and less effective in my experience).

Reyfox do you have RX10 Spectral denoise to try?

In Vegas, besides the timeline lag, saves take longer and cut takes longer. the lag is only on timeline clip movement and not in preview playback.

Last changed by andyrpsmith on 8/2/2025, 6:59 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Reyfox wrote on 8/2/2025, 7:50 AM

@andyrpsmith sorry, I don't have RX10 Spectral. I rarely have to do anything to the sound of what I record. I also use a lot of music, so while I might have "ambient" sound from clips, Smartsound or the Hub music is what is in my videos.

As for fx, I'll use a combination of Boris Continuum, NBFX TotalFX and Vegas native. I constantly monitor hardware usage with Task Manage open on my second monitor. I do a lot of incremental saves using the keyboard shortcut, and saving is quick. But my projects are not usually longer than 10 minutes. Everything is 4K and a lot of images with pan/zoom from @jetdv's Montage and Event Pan/Crop. The footage is from my Panasonic cameras, which are easy for Vegas to handle.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 B250 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.5.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Boris FX Continuum Complete 2025.5.1, Newblue FX Total FX360, Ignite Pro V5

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/2/2025, 8:06 AM

Many thanks for your replies. At least I now know the reason for the lag.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Reyfox wrote on 8/2/2025, 12:25 PM

No problem! I know that there are some plugins that cause Vegas to crawl on it's knees begging for relief.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 B250 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.5.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Boris FX Continuum Complete 2025.5.1, Newblue FX Total FX360, Ignite Pro V5

andyrpsmith wrote on 9/9/2025, 12:19 PM

I just tested this in V23 and the same issue happens after three clips have RX 10 spectral noise reduction, significant timeline lag.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro