Hi AlexB,
but...isn't right click switches-lock menu only available for events? Where do I have to click to lock the WHOLE TRACK?
And...I do have "lock envelopes to events" on, but the nodes of the volume envelope move to the left when I trim a clip......and you can't just add nodes to each event volume envelopes, like in Premiere, for instance....you have to use the track envelope, right? But it seems like I'm missing something....

Thanks...

Cris

You can lock a whole track by going to the first event in the track, right click, select events to end, THEN apply the right click lock under switch. The track will take on a faded color to indicate its locked into position.

To have the nodes move with the events select 'lock envelopes to events' under options.

Hello BillyBoy...
Thanks for the tips, but as I said, I do have "Lock envelopes to events" option turned on....still, when I trim the video clips and they are moved to the left to fill the gap just created, the track volume envelopes nodes move to the left, too!!!!! They do follow the audio event if I move it, but they move to the left when I trim.......(the audio event-wave-doesn't move)..........Also, I knew about that "select events to end" thing, but the problem is the same: the volume envelope doesn't lock!!!!!

Sorry, I can't see another way to explain the problem..........PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!

Thanks, guys

Cris

Help................please!!!!!!!!!

Cris

Sorry to be a DumbAss on this, as you may have tried it, but have you tried to select Ripple Edit sub menu to select : Affected Tracks [ I think this means the track you are editing, and no others ]; Affected tracks, Bus, Track Markers etc; and the third one is ALL TRACKS MARKERS AND REGIONS. To locate this, you will see an itsy-bitsy Down arrow on the Auto Ripple icon, click on this arrow and you can select which option fits your needs.

Hope this helps - apologies if you've already tried it - yeah?

Grazie

Thanks for the tip, Grazie...I do have ALL TRACKS MARKERS AND REGIONS option selected.....this, in fact, makes all the tracks move as I want, but the volume envelope nodes keep on moving to the left, too as it was a separate track (even with "lock envelopes to events" on)............:-(

Is this what you/anybody else are/is experiencing, too? Or is it just me???!!!!!!

Cris

Okay - Another tack.

Try Splitting the track/s with the Env you wanna keep to them. Then moving that. I think I "held" the env to that track when I wanted to move a "lump" with its associated env - give it try on a test - can't harm, may help.

Grazie

I split the wave where the envelope w/ nodes stands....With auto ripple editing on, I moved some video clips that where on the right, to the left, next to the last clip before the gap.....but the audio envelope nodes moved to the left, too..........!!!!!!!!!

How can it be? I mean, this is a basic issue.....what's wrong? If each wave had the possibility to add volume nodes, this wouldn't happen.......but.....ONE evelope for all the waves...that can move even if the wave stands still........How can you work like this???

????I'm confused!!!!!!!!!! (thanks for the help, Grazie!)

Cris

Now, I may be a little crazy, but my workflow is:

1) Get the video segments in place
2) Adjust audio placement as necessary
3) Add any volume envelopes and make final audio adjustments
4) Render.

Never had a problem this way. As an alternative (since you already have the adjustments in place), couldn't you just render the audio, place that on a new track, and work with the new audio???

You seem to be doing something different. I tired an experiement. Follow along. I have auto ripple off and lock envelopes to events on.

I started a new project.

1. I popped a wave file on the timeline added a volume envelope then added 6 points.
2. I next broke this single file into 3 events to simulate 3 wave files.
3. I then clicked on the leftmost event, then the next two, so I selected them all as a group.
4. I then clicked on copy, then pasted on a new track.

All the events (the wave file split into 3 sections) plus the envelope and the set points copied correctly.

Satisified, I next simply dragged the events all around moving right, left, whatever, 2-3-4-10 tracks down. Then I dragged it back up to track two and it still lined up perfectly with the original. All the nodes (points) were in exactlly the same place.

This is a very important thread - very basic but at the same time very timely for what I'm doing.

Grazie

Hi guys, thanks for the tips....I'm sure they both work, but....I think the point is: isn't there a way to simply ripple video events without effecting audio volume nodes and without having to go through a series of other actions like the different ones you tried?......How can it be.....?? This should be a very simple and fast thing to do.....!!

What do you Sonic Foundry staff think about this?...

Cris

Hello...?...Any other opinion?...Sonic Foundry???

Thanks

Cris

I'm far from being an expert at editing or VV but when you ripple edit video VV must know to move the audio and the only way this will happen is if the audio and video tracks are grouped. Or have I missed something here, are you perhaps trying to get the video and grouped audio tracks to move and not the envelopes?

Can't see why you'd want to do that so excuse me if its a stupid point.

Hi farss,
I'm trying to move the video tracks without effecting volume envelope nodes.......I actually don't want the wave to move, nore the envelope nodes....For instance: I have a video clip A and, after some seconds, there are other two clips B and C. I have only one wave with all its volume envelope nodes, starting with clip A video. Now, as there's a gap between clip A and clip B and C, I want to use ripple editing to move the video to the left, next to clip A. I know I could select the two clips and move them to the desired point....but this is a very simple example....what if I worked with 300 clips?...! I wouldn't want to select them all, everytime I change something in the video....this would be silly and annoying....So, back to the example: I switch automatic ripple editing on (-third option-all tracks, markers and so on). I have "lock envelopes to events" on. In fact if I move the wave the nodes follow it. But I don't want to move the wave....I just want the video, covering the wave, to move to the left to fill a gap. But I can't see the way to move it using ripple editing without effecting the nodes...they keep on moving to the left, too, as the wave envelope was a track, while it should just stay locked to the wave...what's the point in the nodes to move through the wave just when you ripple edit the video???? I want to keep my volume settings.......Even if I group the wave to the video, nothing changes....If I group it with clip A, I mean. Because of course if I create a group of the wave and clip B and C, when I move these videos with ripple editing turned on, the wave moves to the left, too as it follows the video of its group.
But as I said I want the wave to stay right there........

Simply....what do you do everytime you need to ripple edit?....It's crazy volume nodes move!!!.....What am I missing?......

Thanks

Cris

I've read through this thread and I for one am finding it very difficult to understand the Vegas behaviour you are describing - to be fair, describing these sorts of issues using only text can be tricky (wouldn't inline posting of images on the forum be nifty? Please?) Or if I do understand what you're saying, then I don't see the problem.

I can do everything I want with Vegas, and I train students on it at the Queensland School of FIlm and Television - so I'm (humbly!) confident that I can help you... once I understand what the problem is! ;-)

Any chance you could post a few screenshots? Before and after, with arrows pointing at the "problem" and noting what you want Vegas to do?

Better still, use the freeware program CamStudio to capture the area of the Vegas interface where you're doing what you're doing, add some voice describing what you WANT it to do, and post the AVI to a web site somewhere (or if it's less than 3meg, feel free to email it to me - use Vegas and the latest DiVX codec to add your voice and make it small!). Here's the CamStudio website (it's a great piece of open source freeware):

http://www.rendersoftware.com/products/camstudio/


Skevos Mavros
mavart@mavart.com
http://www.mavart.com

Thanks so much Skevos!
Unfortunately, I cannot record my voice at present (don't have the mic here in these days...), but I've just recorded two short movies through CamStudio and, as they are less than 3Mb together, I'm gonna send them to you with an explanation of what I did...thanks a lot again...

Cris