Please help!!!!!! .vob file issues!!!!!!!

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 12:08 AM

ok, so I just got 25 reels of 8mm transfered to dvd........they play fine on my PC dvd player......and on my home DVD player.........but when I extract the vob files into vegas.......(which by the way works fine)..........vegas says the files are only 30 seconds long.....????? but in all actuality, there almost 30 minutes a piece......if anyone has any help, or suggestions, please help, Im suppost to have this finished by the end of the week!!!! Thankyou!!!!

Stan

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Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 11:41 AM

nobody has any suggestions?????

Jsnkc wrote on 12/3/2003, 11:42 AM

What exactly are you trying to do with the VOB files? Edit them? Join them??

This is funny I was just pulling some VOB files off of a DVD and re-authoring it this morning. :)

If you're trying to get them on the Vegas timeline probably the best way to do it would be to play the disc in DVD player and then do an analog capture of the DVD. Vegas isn't really designed to edit or import VOB's (although it can) and can cause a lot of problems like you are experiencing

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 11:53 AM

Yeah, all im trying to do is join them together........i dont have a video capture card on my computer..........I dont know if theres a way to capture from the dvd rom i have in my computer.........if so that would be great to know.......any other suggestions of how to capture inside the computer?
Thanks

Stan

Jsnkc wrote on 12/3/2003, 11:58 AM

So you basically want them to play one after another on a DVD?? Or are you trying to make a tape Video of this?

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 12:23 PM

no, the video on the dvds is old 8mm film........I want to put them in vegas......add music......titles.......etc.....

Jsnkc wrote on 12/3/2003, 12:29 PM

I think the only way you will be able to do that then is to convert them to a MPEG file I will search for a guide for you and post it soon.

Nevermind, I can't find any simple guides to do this right now, but I know it can be done. Search around at www.doom9.org or www.dvdrhelp.com and you will find it sooner or later. Basically search for DVD to AVI or DVD to AVI.

Julius_911 wrote on 12/3/2003, 12:32 PM

Hummmm

I'd try to rip the VOB files using dvddecrypter.
http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

Sorry I don't have any other suggestions.

Jsnkc wrote on 12/3/2003, 1:09 PM

This might help

http://downloads.zdnet.co.uk/downloads/detail/1002-2194-10191597.html

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 1:20 PM

thanks guys ill try those

Frenchy wrote on 12/3/2003, 1:23 PM

Give SmartRipper a try. I think 2.41 is the most recent version. It works well for what you're trying to do. Google it, or go to dvdrhelp.com, doom9.org, or afterdawn.com. Good guides available at dvdrhelp.com.

johnmeyer wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:00 PM

If they are encrypted, DVD Decrypter is better (IMHO) than Smartripper (more options, faster). I can't imagine they would be encrypted by a commercial 8mm dup service. Have you tried several VOB files? Also, have you copied them to the hard disk first? The performance of Vegas, especially on anything slower than 2 GHz, when dealing directly with MPEG (or VOB) files is not great.

Try copying a VOB file to the hard disk. Once copied, place this on the Vegas timeline. Then, place the cursor somewhere in the middle of the event (ten minutes in, lets say). Wait for awhile. See if the video doesn't eventually show up in the preview. If it does, what I would recommend is to put the VOBs on the timeline, then immediately render these to NTSC DV (or PAL DV, if you are in Europe). Use the resulting file for your editing.

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:12 PM

yeah the vob files show up in vegas, and play perfect in the preview screen......put it only shows that the files 30 seconds long.....but there 30 minutes long, so if i render them out, theyll only be 30 seconds..........im not sure why the time is wrong in vegas, i dont know if theres an option im missing.....cause its literally exactly 30 seconds........dunno........

Stan

Jsnkc wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:16 PM

I actually tried that with a few programs I was working on today and he is right, if I put a VOB on the timeline of a video that is about 20 minutes long it only shows about 15-30 seconds of it on the Vegas timeline. I don't think Vegas was really designed to be able to import VOB's though.

TomG wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:25 PM

I had this problem a year ago and I went back and here is the work flow I use to convert .vob files to V4. I would paste the reference to the topic but not sure how to do it. Hope this helps:

1. Copy .vob file to HD
2. Run .vob file through dvd2avi
3. Run the .dv2 file through vfapiconv to get .avi markers
4. Run .vfapiconv file into V4
5. Render 1 minute of footage to create .mpg
6. Run .mpg into DVDA to burn DVD

TomG

Thr3 wrote on 12/3/2003, 7:46 PM

I used the max dvd to mpg prog......seems to have worked flawlessly.......thanks again for the help guys

johnmeyer wrote on 12/4/2003, 1:02 PM

I have no problem putting VOB files into Vegas and getting them to play -- no 30 second limit. It suddenly hit me that, at least back in the Win98 days, if you didn't have a software DVD player installed (like WinDVD or PowerDVD), then other programs (like Windows Media Player), wouldn't handle MPEG files.

Do you have WinDVD installed?

I just put a 1 GByte VOB file on the timeline and I'm now playing (with no audio, of course). It is at 13:57 into the clip, and still playing fine, at full speed, even with another instance of Vegas rendering an MPEG file in the background. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad or stupid, but just to point out that it can be done.

farss wrote on 12/4/2003, 1:59 PM

This oes expose a BIG problem with video at the moment and the public perception of what it's all about.

I do a LOT of 8mm film xfers. Mostly now people want their stuff on DVD. What they don't grasp is that getting it back off DVD is not goof proof. Same thing happesn with their old VHS tapes, they want you to squeeze as much onto one DVD as possible so I use ac3 audio, fine except again if they ever want to extract that and do something with it.

I know keep copies of all the work on SVHS. I know that isn't ideal but its cheap (they're not paying me for this!) and considering the quality of the material to start with even SHVS is probably overkill.

One I did yesterday, Hi8 tape the client had transferred himself to VHS, Hi8 was recorded in LP, when the 4 hour VHS got to 3 hours client realised it wouldn't all fit on one tape so went to LP. His efforts at editing VCR to VCR weren't too flash either, he ended up with 5 second gaps with what was on the tape before still there!